Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring
Welcome to the edit warring noticeboard | ||
---|---|---|
This page is for reporting active edit warriors and recent violations of restrictions like the three-revert rule.
You must notify any user you have reported. You may use You can subscribe to a web feed of this page in either RSS or Atom format.
Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.
An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.
Sections older than 48 hours are archived by Lowercase sigmabot III.
| ||
User:Ele3ctricBloom$ reported by User:Geraldo Perez (Result: Declined – malformed report)
[edit]Page: Under the Boardwalk (2023 film) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Ele3ctricBloom$ (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
7 reverts starting Nov 30 after initial change was made and very careful to not trip 3RR but it is still edit warring. EW notice is on user talk page. Article talk page has a discussion about the issue. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:12, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Declined – malformed report. Please use the "Click here to create a new report" link at the top of this page, which gives a template report, and provide complete diffs. Bbb23 (talk) 17:27, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
User:Ele3ctricBloom$ reported by User:Geraldo Perez (Result:Blocked 24h)
[edit]Page: Under the Boardwalk (2023 film) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Ele3ctricBloom$ (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: Special:Diff/1260259307
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- Special:Diff/1260440176
- Special:Diff/1260478863
- Special:Diff/1260576259
- Special:Diff/1260849310
- Special:Diff/1261171301
- Special:Diff/1261614717
- Special:Diff/1261717066
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning: Special:Diff/1260582771
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:Under the Boardwalk (2023 film)#Runtime
Comments:
7 reverts starting Nov 30 after initial change was made and very careful to not trip 3RR but it is still edit warring. EW notice is on user talk page. Article talk page has a discussion about the issue. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:12, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Refiled the report to fill in missing parts. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:39, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 24 hours Daniel Case (talk) 03:20, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
User:DONT MY BLOCK USER reported by User:CanonNi (Result: Indefinitely blocked)
[edit]Page: Pale Garden (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: DONT MY BLOCK USER (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- Consecutive edits made from 06:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC) to 06:58, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- 06:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC) "←Changed redirect target from Minecraft#Gameplay to List of Wikipedias"
- 06:58, 8 December 2024 (UTC) "DONT MY BLOCK USER moved page Pale Garden to Template:Pale Garden"
- Consecutive edits made from 06:49, 8 December 2024 (UTC) to 06:52, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- 06:49, 8 December 2024 (UTC) "DONT MY BLOCK USER moved page Pale Garden to Help:Pale Garden"
- 06:50, 8 December 2024 (UTC) "←Removed redirect to Minecraft#Gameplay"
- 06:52, 8 December 2024 (UTC) "←Redirected page to List of Wikipedias"
- Consecutive edits made from 06:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC) to 06:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- 06:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC) "←Removed redirect to Minecraft#Gameplay"
- 06:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC) "DONT MY BLOCK USER moved page Pale Garden to Wikipedia:Pale Garden"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 05:39, 8 December 2024 (UTC) "Notice: Article blanked and redirected on Pale Garden."
- 06:44, 8 December 2024 (UTC) "/* December 2024 */ reply"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
Repeated attempts at creating a BLARed article, and moving it to various namespaces after edits were reverted. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 07:00, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have indefinitely blocked the user as NOTHERE. Johnuniq (talk) 07:19, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
User:Upd Edit reported by User:Ratnahastin (Result: Page protected)
[edit]Page: Shahi Jama Masjid (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Upd Edit (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 14:15, 8 December 2024 (UTC) "Restored revision 1261756452 by Upd Edit (talk): Rv vandalism by IP with incoherent edit summaries"
- 20:45, 7 December 2024 (UTC) "Restored revision 1261703275 by Upd Edit (talk)"
- 10:54, 7 December 2024 (UTC) "Restored revision 1261675169 by Ratnahastin (talk): It might be "archaic" but has been referenced by modern scholars."
- 19:34, 6 December 2024 (UTC) "Restored revision 1261506262 by Upd Edit (talk): PLEASE DISCUSS AT THE TALK PAGE: What do you mean by better ordering? Why did you delete the additional information (documents held by the mosque-keeper, etc.) that I added?"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 10:55, 7 December 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
Constant edit warring with multiple editors by this user on this article since last week[1][2] . - Ratnahastin (talk) 14:40, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Reverting vandalism is exempted; the edits I reverted removed sourced content including an entire paragraph describing Anand Ram Mukhlis' account, which is not under challenge. Additionally, it misrepresented sources by adding unverifiable descriptors like "politically aligned Hindus", "just like nearest river", "skeptic protestors", etc.
- Notably, the filer is tag-teaming against me: see this (rejected) SPI report and the ongoing ANI case. Upd Edit (talk) 14:52, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- You absolutely have no idea what is vandalism. Your response only proves my report. - Ratnahastin (talk) 14:57, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- If removing sourced content and adding misleading descriptors without edit summaries and without any engagement at the talk-page is not vandalism, we agree to disagree. That said, the trend at this page to (1) revert edits with no/misleading edit summaries, (2) not come to the talk-page despite personalized messages at their talk-page, and (3) file complaints against me (as documented by Kautilya3) is mildly amusing. Thanks, Upd Edit (talk) 15:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- This is not the kind of "obvious vandalism" exempt from the edit warring policy, and it's unlikely to be vandalism at all. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- If removing sourced content and adding misleading descriptors without edit summaries and without any engagement at the talk-page is not vandalism, we agree to disagree. That said, the trend at this page to (1) revert edits with no/misleading edit summaries, (2) not come to the talk-page despite personalized messages at their talk-page, and (3) file complaints against me (as documented by Kautilya3) is mildly amusing. Thanks, Upd Edit (talk) 15:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- You absolutely have no idea what is vandalism. Your response only proves my report. - Ratnahastin (talk) 14:57, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Page protected ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Partially blocked – for a period of 2 weeks~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- ToBeFree, are you sure about this? The editor hasn't crossed 3RR! The last revert might not "look like reverting vandalism", but the IP edit was modifying direct quotes with WP:OR. These are the kind of reverts that any of us might do. Applying a sanction for them seems like setting a bad precedent.
- Note also this comment I wrote less than 24 hours ago, and the comment below it from PhilBerger. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:42, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Kautilya3, I didn't mean to make it look as if Upd Edit's editing was the most problematic or even the only problematic one. I'm using page protection only now. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:58, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks very much. I am trying to get involved with this page as much as I can, though I am busy with other topics. I think we can sort it out. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:13, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Kautilya3, I didn't mean to make it look as if Upd Edit's editing was the most problematic or even the only problematic one. I'm using page protection only now. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:58, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
User:Æ is a good character reported by User:IceWelder (Result: Declined)
[edit]Page: Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), Spacewar! (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), Grand Theft Auto (video game) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), List of largest empires (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), Animator vs. Animation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Æ is a good character (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
This user rotates between two accounts, Æ's old account wasn't working and Ægc's friendly xbox alt, as well as at least two IPs, 2403:4800:351A:BE15:0:0:0:0/64 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) and 2001:8003:58EA:E700:0:0:0:0/64 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), to engage in edit warring. In the most recent example, Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing, the user added unnecessary wording, to which I disagreed. Instead of following WP:BRD, the user reinstated their edit with another account, stating only "I am not a sock. I am not a sock. Remain calm." instead of engaging in any sort of dicussion. After I referred to WP:BRD explicitly, the user's next revert, again from another account, reiterated: "Do not panic. This is still me. I am not a sock. Both of my accounts are out of action at the moment, but they are not banned. I am not a sock. I am not a sock. I am not a sock.", once again not attempting to settle the issue via a discussion.
This is not an isolated case, however. The following examples, from the past month alone, come to mind:
- Spacewar!: The user makes a factual error that I challenge. After one commentless revert, they are reverted by another user (Rhain), and their second revert only reads "Just get over it mate, you're probably not gonna be winning this one anyway; this is not a threat". Their following two undos claim "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room!" and "Fight me. Just fight me.", only ceasing their warring when a third user intervened.
- Grand Theft Auto (video game): The user introduced unsoucred claims and is reverted by Rhain. After they partially reinstate their edit, another user enforces WP:NOPIPE, which the user reverts without comment. After being reverted with reference to the guideline involved, the user claims "Why does everything I touch automatically devolve into an edit war? Because of you. Yeah, you. Maybe." and only stopped when I reverted them.
- List of largest empires: I was not involved in this one, but the user went back and forth with two others, including comments like "Looks like we should prepare for war..."
- Animator vs. Animation: Another article Rhain was involved in; the user reverts Rhain without comment three times within 13 hours, and provided no rationale even after the minor edit war ended.
The user appears to intentionally provoke edit wars while often blaming the issue on the other user(s) involved, with individual edit summaries almost leaning into WP:NOTHERE territory, especially after the user has already been on this platform for a little over two years and will have come across the most important guidelines in this time. IceWelder [✉] 13:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- This is way too complicated and alleges too many different policy violations for this board. I have no comment on the merits of the allegations, but the best board would be WP:ANI.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:53, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
User:Nelsito Maduro reported by User:HistoryofIran (Result: Blocked one week)
[edit]Page: Khanate of Bukhara (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Nelsito Maduro (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: 11 July 2024 9 December 2024
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [7]
Comments:
Mindlessly edit warring at Khanate of Bukhara, no edit summary whatsoever, attempting to replace a sourced map with their own unsourced, exaggerated, and likely copyrighted map. This is not the first time they've tried to disregarded WP:RS in favour of their own POV, as seen in this talk section back in July 2024 [8]. Seeing as they suddenly lost the ability to write a single word, I would consider this on the realm of WP:NOTHERE. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:29, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of one week. Bbb23 (talk) 14:44, 9 December 2024 (UTC)