Talk:Education in the United States

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Headings and ordering

I have reworked to headings into a structure which should be clear, and have done a small amount of reordering (to keep K-12 funding with K-12 etc). I haven't added to removed any content. PeterEastern (talk)

Wiki Education assignment: Introduction to Policy Analysis

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 28 March 2022 and 30 May 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Yajzel V (article contribs).

"Underfunded public school system" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Underfunded public school system and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 13#Underfunded public school system until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Partofthemachine (talk) 22:49, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Issue with table in educational stages

I have a few issues with the table located in educational stages section of this article.

Particularly with the age part.

The preschool and K-12 are overall fine because it’s very graduate on time during those years of education. Like you can literally graduate High school or middle school by pretending to care about your academics a little. Not mention most schools for children ages 3-18 discourage kids from being held back or dropping out.

But I have an issue with the age section for college students.

Most sources would consider a traditional undergraduate to be between the ages of 18-25. So a 23 or 24 year old senior in college would still classify as a traditional college student.

Also only 40% of undergraduates in a bachelor’s program graduate within 4 years or less with around 20% or 30% taking 5 to 6 years with the rest usually dropping out.

Also college isn’t really much an age thing, it’s not uncommon for 30 years to be in undergraduate programs.

I understand the age ranges for all the other grades listed in the chart, but the college student age range in that table only represents like less than 40% of all college students. CycoMa1 (talk) 19:53, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also I forgot to mention this too. Let’s not forget about students who only pursue an associates. Like there are many full time accountants or preschool teachers who only have an associates degree.CycoMa1 (talk) 21:15, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

accelerated degrees for nontraditional students

I have an issue with this sentence.

<span style="color:red"> Many times, these accelerated degrees are offered online or as evening courses and are targeted mainly but not always for adult learners/non-traditional students.</span>

When looking at the articles nontraditional and traditional student. The term appears to be a term designated for undergraduates. So I don’t think the term nontraditional would apply to graduate students or any degrees after undergrad.

Let’s also not forget there are many of these post-undergraduate students are longer than 2 years meaning that obviously a lot of these students like PHD or Doctorate students are obviously over the age of 25.CycoMa1 (talk) 15:04, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Listed Budget Incorrect

The listed U.S budget is for $1.3T. As stated in the article link listed "U.S. expenditures for public and private education, from prekindergarten through graduate school (excluding postsecondary schools not awarding associate’s or higher degrees), were an estimated $1.3 trillion for 2016–17" This isn't budget, just expenditure. Budget listed on Dep. of Education lists $83.63B for FY24. HonestArtemis (talk) 13:35, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please check the numbers in the section on Cost

The article states: "Yearly total cost ... [to attend] public university is $27,967" The article also states: "the median salary of an individual who has only a high school diploma is $27,967" It seems unlikely that these two amounts are identical. So I am suggesting the numbers be re-checked for accuracy and then: -- If the numbers are correct add a note remarking on the unlikeliness of it so the reader is reassured this isn't a typo, or -- If the numbers are not correct please change them to the correct values 104.174.240.93 (talk) 03:04, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Updates

Several sections of this article appear to be out of date. NCES has made more current statistics available to the public and I will use them to update the various sections. In addition, the history section is incomplete and misleading. I will update that section as well. EdHistory101 (talk) 13:06, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]