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Schools Division Office of Taguig City and Pateros

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Articles for deletion/Schools Division Office of Taguig City and Pateros
Articles for deletion/Schools Division Office of Taguig City and Pateros (2nd nomination)

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None of the refs provide WP:SIGCOV or surpass WP:GNG. Most just show passing mention, or do not even mention the subject of the article at all. For example, This ref discusses the office relaxing the dress code, but does not discuss the office per se. This mentions the "DepEd Taguig-Pateros administrator", but again, does not discuss the office per se. This has the office denying a "maternity leave scam" existing, but again, does not discuss the office in depth. This and this merely discusses transfer of schools from the Makati office to Taguig-Pateros due to the Makati–Taguig boundary dispute, but, you guessed it, did not discuss either of the two offices. None of these show WP:SIGCOV and if someone shows up saying "these satisfy WP:SIGCOV in my view" that person has to actually point out where. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This was originally nominated as a batched nomination with other similar articles but I screwed up and decided to just nominate these separately. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:20, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Calling the attention of the participants of the original AFD (Hariboneagle927 and AstrooKai). Howard the Duck (talk) 23:17, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this article and merge the list of schools to Pateros#Education and List of schools in Taguig. This school division is not notable enough for a stand-alone article. Why is there even stand-alone articles for school divisions in the Philippines? I don't think any school divisions in the country is that notable for an article.AstrooKai (Talk) 23:34, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Division of City Schools–Valenzuela

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None of the refs provide WP:SIGCOV or surpass WP:GNG. Most just show passing mention, or do not even mention the subject of the article at all. For example, this is about mayor Win Gatchalian address... we don't usually create articles about an address of a mayor. Other refs are WP:SELFPUBLISHED sources. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:26, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Calling the attention of the participants of the original AFD (Hariboneagle927 and AstrooKai). Howard the Duck (talk) 23:18, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete this article. The division is not notable. Some of the schools that have their articles are already listed or under Category:Schools in Valenzuela, Metro Manila so I'm not sure if the tons of other non-notable schools can be merged to List of schools in Metro Manila because I think it fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE (this article seems to be listing all of the schools in Valenzuela). I guess a stand-alone list can be created to accommodate some of the schools listed here based on WP:LSC?AstrooKai (Talk) 00:09, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Previous AFD is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Schools Division Office of Taguig City and Pateros, so not eligible for Soft Deletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Code page 3846

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Fails WP: NOTDICT. I can't find any sources that could expand the article beyond the definition of the codepage layout. HyperAccelerated (talk) 05:02, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:NOTDICT is not relevant, these articles are about concepts, not words or phrases. The first sentence is a definition, the rest, including the character set, is a description. It's possible that some are not notable, but an alternative would be to redirect to Code page. Peter James (talk) 14:07, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're misunderstanding. We need sources that let us expand beyond the what's currently in the article, which is effectively "this is a code page and this is a copy-paste of its contents." I can't find any reliable secondary sources that would allow us to do that.

I'm not claiming that "Code page 3846" shows up in the Oxford English Dictionary. This distinction between "concepts" and "words or phrases" or between "definitions" and "descriptions" misses the forest for the trees. Maybe I should have cited WP: HOWTO instead, but no matter which policy we use, the argument is the same as nearly any other AfD: the sourcing needs to be improved, or this article should be deleted. HyperAccelerated (talk) 16:15, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Merge with Code page 857 (if kept) or~~ transwiki. Alexlatham96 (talk) 18:39, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge to Code page or perhaps to another article aggregating all minor code pages. I agree that this page in isolation probably fails the spirit of WP: NOTDICT but all minor code pages together have higher information density and will be a fitting encyclopedic reference, akin to List of Nvidia graphics processing units. Davemc0 (talk) 16:50, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Code page. I agree with above. I see no reason why information about this code page couldn't be added into the main article. As it stands, I don't think 3846 is WP:NOTABLE enough to warrant its own article, but I think a merge could work quite well as there is information that would be valuable to an encyclopedia. Beachweak (talk) 10:09, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Technical College

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No independent references or evidence of notability. Ira Leviton (talk) 23:29, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep (soft) -- per WP:NUNI, legitimate academic institutions are generally inherently notable. By all accounts, this appears to be an important educational institution in Zambia. That said, I would not be shocked if consensus fell in the opposite direction. Relying on a single primary source is not great (to say the least). I found this, but I'm not sure how much notability a single article establishes. There is also this, though it seems a bit PR-ish. That said, I'm not sure what sort of sources one should expect out of Zambia (WP:NOTLEVEL). Alternatively, a merge into education in Zambia should be considered.MWFwiki (talk) 00:18, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. Not for profit public institution and its fairly long historical existence. Mekomo (talk) 16:25, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Australian Progressives

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No inherent notability, has little notice from independent sources. No electoral success and has been de-registered by the Australian Electoral Commission for 2 years Flat Out (talk) 23:24, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I note that this is the third nomination and that the last nomination failed to reach consensus, however the article is largely unsourced and has mostly only passing mentions in independent sources. Flat Out (talk) 23:36, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Division of City Schools–Navotas

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None of the refs provide WP:SIGCOV or surpass WP:GNG. For example, this is not even a passing mention. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:23, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Calling the attention of the participants of the original AFD (Hariboneagle927 and AstrooKai). Howard the Duck (talk) 23:18, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -- per nominator. Not seeing virtually any notability, even with a generous reading of WP:NSCHOOL, and definitely not under GNG. (this comment is by User:MWFwiki. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:48, 11 December 2024 (UTC))[reply]
Previous AFD is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Schools Division Office of Taguig City and Pateros so not eligible for Soft Deletion. Please sign your opinions. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:48, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pateros Schools District

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None of the refs provide WP:SIGCOV or surpass WP:GNG. Most just show passing mention, or do not even mention the subject of the article at all. The only ref is WP:SELFPUBLISHED. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Calling the attention of the participants of the original AFD (Hariboneagle927 and AstrooKai). Howard the Duck (talk) 23:18, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this article and merge the list of schools to Pateros#Education. The school district is not notable enough to warrant its own article.AstrooKai (Talk) 23:31, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Previous AFD is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Schools Division Office of Taguig City and Pateros so not eligible for Soft Deletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:50, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Double Science

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Non-notable radio show; lacks any significant coverage in independent reliable sources, failing WP:GNG. Only refs found in Google are mere mentions or are BBC links, which is not independent of subject. -- Wikipedical (talk) 22:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: all kinds of hits on the phrase, nothing found for a radio program. Lack of sourcing. What's now in the article for sourcing isn't helpful Oaktree b (talk) 02:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This was all I could find [1], still not a RS. Oaktree b (talk) 02:08, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List_of_BBC_Radio_4_programmes#Sitcoms: listed there (merge whatever content can be merged). (FWIW, I had indicated a Redirect should be considered when I DPD the page (same nominator)) -Mushy Yank. 21:34, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hassan Palang

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 21:36, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Phillip Broughton

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Four years after the notability banner was added, the article remains largely unsourced with two of the three references for this article being Broughton's own blog. PlateOfToast (talk) 18:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: The blog sources weren't at all difficult to replace. He was profiled plenty of times in the media when he stood for leadership of UKIP, though the profiles are largely similar to one another and not tremendously long (Broughton came fourth and seems to have sunk without trace). Being a losing candidate in a national paerliamentary election doesn't give much weight in my view, and the current weight (and unsourced analysis) in the current Wikipedia article is not warranted. I'd probably incline towards "Weak delete" and maybe mention the candidates for UKIP leader, in the UKIP Wikipedia article.Sionk (talk) 00:33, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sherkat Omana

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The topic is not notable and the sources do not cover the topic in detail Tarikhejtemai (talk) 21:09, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed with Tarikhejtemai. There are very few sources about this and none outside of Baha'i publications I can find.Smkolins (talk) 21:35, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete and merge into Baháʼí Faith in Iran. It should have been added there first. Does not appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:ORGCRIT. The only source that appears to be independent is a Minority Rights Group report from 1985 that is not available online and difficult to even verify what it says. The inclusion of Category:Front organization gives a clue as to the intentions of making an independent article. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 23:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cuñado You can't "delete and merge". If you merge something you have to keep the page, even if as a redirect, for copyright reasons. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:50, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess delete then. My point was that a paragraph or so would be due weight at Baháʼí Faith in Iran but not notable enough for its own article. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 16:41, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Pomodorino di Manduria

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It doesn't seem to be a noteworthy article. JacktheBrown (talk) 21:05, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment plant species are not something I would normally edit. I've added two references, one was take from the article prodotto agroalimentare tradizionale. I've included that ref (pdf) as I think it fulfills one of the criteria of WP:NBREED? Recognised under prodotto agroalimentare tradizionale? I am going to wait to see if someone from the plant project can confirm this? Knitsey (talk) 22:45, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Simpsons Funday Football

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One-off program lacking in non-routine coverage. Could redirect or merge to Monday Night Football#2024 summary as an WP:ATD. Esolo5002 (talk) 20:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge: to the Monday Night Football article. It's gotten about as much coverage as the Toy Story version (that was quickly forgotten), this would likely be headed in the same direction. Oaktree b (talk) 21:07, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Monday Night Football#2024 summary. A single line explaining how it went is fine enough. I'd also be open to eventually having a list of these types of games, List of animated NFL games or similar. Conyo14 (talk) 23:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Not surprised to see this nomination, but I don't think we're going to see a delete here since trying to get a Simpsons subject matter article removed/redirected...well, I think we all know how hard that is (see how we're still trying to get action on two-review sourced Family Guy episode articles from seasons ago even now). We really need to create an article that sums up NFL alternate broadcasts (including the Nickelodeon versions) that will properly catalog them in an appropriate way. Placing this in the MNF article as a sentence I don't think is an elegant solution (the Toy Story broadcast was a one-off of an international NFL game on Sunday morning while this was clearly upfront much more). Nate • (chatter) 23:34, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To me I think it’s best to merge with Manningcast since it’s considered as a MNF alternative broadcast) since we can just make another paragraph in listing and mentioning both the Toy Story and Simpsons funday football there Hoopstercat (talk) 19:13, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Does it have anything to do with Manningcast though? SportingFlyer T·C 19:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge worth mentioning somewhere here, but it's new and currently falls afoul of WP:NOTNEWS. SportingFlyer T·C 00:30, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge, fails WP:NSPORTSEVENT at this time. Hatman31 (he/him · talk · contribs) 17:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stefan Stoyke

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 20:00, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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János Végső

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pál Székely

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Robert MacKenzie (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Renan Dias

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non-notable footballer. Fails GNG and only played at semi-pro level in Canada RedPatch (talk) 19:20, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:57, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 02:42, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Youth worker

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For a possible merge into youth work. GnocchiFan (talk) 19:41, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment, are you asking for a merger? There are ways to do that that don't involve AFD, but now that we're at it, I spot Community youth workers which is in an even worse state. Geschichte (talk) 20:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Youth work, which is what all the references are really talking about. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 23:05, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. I thought we had a separate place to discuss mergers, but ok. Bearian (talk) 22:04, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Tel Aviv truck attack

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Fails WP:LASTING, seems to be WP:NOTNEWS. E_F⁵ 19:17, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Kept five weeks ago, with very few delete opinions. Geschichte (talk) 20:31, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No lasting effects, all news is from over a month ago at this point. The media cycle has moved on it seems. Two deaths is rather routine and nothing out of the ordinary, even in a regular traffic accident. This isn't the Yonge Street attack in Toronto where a dozen people got caught... Oaktree b (talk) 21:10, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete There appears to be coverage after the first week. LASTING and NOTNEWS definitely apply. QuicoleJR (talk) 23:54, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Battle of City of Rocks

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Fails establishment of notability. ––kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 18:54, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete: Fails WP:MILNG. The only source cited falls under WP:PRIMARY and WP:AGE MATTERS, this should not have been in the mainspace to begin with. Garudam ^Talk! 22:33, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for failing nearly every criteria in WP:NEVENTS: lasting events, geographical scope, duration of coverage, diversity of sources. One newspaper article isn't going to get the job done. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:30, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - nothing in Josephy's The Civil War in the American West or Cutrer's Theater of a Separate War. I turned up a passing mention in an 1865 government report. Nothing that shows evidence of notability here. Hog Farm _Talk 01:29, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable, and this user has a history of adding what is essentially trivia to articles about California in the Civil War taken almost exclusively from contemporary newspaper accounts. This article is no exception. Intothat darkness 02:31, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and admonishment to the creator User:Tablelegs6. "Battle of City of Rocks" yields zero results on Google/Books/News. Beyond a single primary source of an 1862 newspaper article being insufficient to base an article on, it's wildly inappropriate to just make names up as if this is an actual title given by historians. That does not appear to be the case and "battle" is not in the source. Is there any other coverage of this event? What is the historical significance? City of Rocks National Reserve#History could certainly use expansion with sources like [2], but standalone articles on events covered in one contemporaneous newspaper article is not what we need. A second admonishment for the article being a WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE of the primary source, for example the source says "...which gave the travelers the impression that they were bringing to them beef. In a short time however, other Indians were seen coming out in all directions, mounted and on foot. Between thirty and forty Indians, mounted on fine large horses, very shortly after came dashing down upon them and commenced firing" and the article says "which gave them the impression that they were bringing some beef. As that was happening other Natives were seen coming out in all directions, some on horses others on foot. Between 30-40 Indians mounted on horses and rushed the men then opened fire." Even if this is out of copyright, it's not appropriate to copy and paste one news report and just make minor changes and call it an encyclopedia article. Reywas92^Talk 05:15, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I have also nominated the creator's similarly single-source-paraphrased articles with manufactured titles Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Magdalena Affair and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Sulphur Springs, may also do Tanori's Raid and Skirmish at Grass Valley in the morning. Reywas92^Talk 05:55, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  The paraphrasing is a common issue with this author. I've been doing cleanup in many California Civil War unit articles centering on this very thing. Intothat darkness 13:09, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Khilli Ram Meena

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no indication this person is meets the criteria of WP:ANYBIO the only source is a press release by the government. It is an appointed position with no inherent notability attached to it. I can't find any other sources to support this person is notable for anything else. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 18:41, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify - I came across this article during my general monitoring of unreferenced articles. Had it not already been tagged for deletion, I would have draftified it, to give the creating editor a chance to flesh it out in draftspace - I completely agree that it does not belong in mainspace in the state that it's in - on the basis that they might have other sources in mind. As the article is only very recently created, that seemed to me to be a reasonable thing to do, and a good alternative to deletion at this stage. SunloungerFrog (talk) 21:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Preeti Mistry

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Since this is tagged with the notability tag, adding here for discussion on deletion. (Article creator here, staying neutral on the discussion) GnocchiFan (talk) 18:15, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Rather than staying "neutral", we would much rather have you contribute to the discussion, since you probably have a familiarity with the topic, with emphasis on the question: are there more reliable sources on the person? Or are there not? Geschichte (talk) 20:34, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kyōko Nakano

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Since this is tagged with the notability tag, adding here for discussion on deletion. (Article creator here, staying neutral on the discussion) GnocchiFan (talk) 18:13, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, Notabilty not apparent yet. Xxanthippe (talk) 23:35, 10 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Monel Felix

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WP:BLP of an alleged criminal, not properly sourced as passing the intentionally high WP:PERP bar for Wikipedia articles about criminals. One of the four footnotes here is just present to tangentially verify a stray fact about the impoverishment of a neighbourhood impacted by an event, which has absolutely nothing to do with establishing the notability of Monel Felix at all, whereas the other three footnotes were all published entirely within the past 24 hours, and are not about Monel Felix but just glancingly namecheck him as the alleged, but not confirmed or charged or convicted, mastermind of the event.
As per PERP, however, people do not get Wikipedia articles for being merely alleged to have committed a crime: he would have to be convicted of a crime to get an article on that basis, and qualifying him for an article now would require a much stronger claim of preexisting notability supported by much stronger sourcing about him than this. For the moment, this runs afoul of both PERP and WP:NOTNEWS: there may be a stronger basis for notability, and better sourcing for it, in the future, so no prejudice against recreation if and when that materializes, but this amount of content and sourcing is not enough yet. We can get into a lot of trouble, as well as causing problems for our article subjects, if we get anything wrong, so for BLP reasons we have to be extremely careful about tying notability to crime — so the bar is conviction, not just allegation, and the sourcing has to be really, really solid and airtight.
Although this isn't a deletion rationale per se, it also warrants note that this article persistently misspells the country's name as "Thaiti" instead of "Haiti", which suggests a WP:CIR issue. Bearcat (talk) 18:00, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: This individual isn't notable; the events surrounding the multiple deaths could be. An article could probably be created around this. Oaktree b (talk) 21:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No comment on the notability because I largely agree with you, but I feel like this raises an interesting question. Does anyone even get convicted of crimes in Haiti anymore? The government is collapsed. Anyone there can do anything and without a functioning legal system there is no process to convict or to charge. He's never going to be convicted because who would convict him? It is impossible for any criminal in Haiti to have an article then. Interesting situation. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:18, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haiti doesn't seem to have a functioning government, or one that's around for very long, so this seems to be the situation. Oaktree b (talk) 02:13, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In that way, I think PERP may need to be interpreted more liberally in cases like this, as no one can be convicted in the country. However I'm speaking for other cases that may be similar as this one does not seem to be notable. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:04, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom's findings --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:31, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sandkorn-Theater

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Created in 2011 as a translation from German wikipedia, hasn't expanded since 13 years. ––kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 17:41, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Just because it hasn't expanded doesn't mean it's not notable - unfortunately the German wikipedia only has one source so there'll have to be a source search done. SportingFlyer T·C 19:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The German Wikipedia article has no sources; it has a link to the theater's homepage only. Searching for reliable sources will be hard because it's a semiprofessional theater only, and most mentions will be in guidebooks that list just any other location in the city too, meaning they're no indicator of notability. 13 years and still less information in this article than on Maps shows how notable this location is.

The reason this article is still live on the German Wikipedia is because there, notability is not based on independent coverage. By the way, there are actually three theaters in this building, and there is no reason to prefer one over the other, so rename this article or create articles for the other two theaters too?

I tend to soft delete or at least draftify. While WP:Deletion is not cleanup and I don't want to exclude the possibility that the theater has notability, Wikipedia's reputation is based on articles with reliable information; in this form, the article should never have existed. Killarnee (talk) 02:30, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't find that to be the case with a source search - there's multiple mentions in both Google Books and Google Scholar, though nothing which instantly tells me that it is clearly notable. I'm not sure it is notable independently of the complex where the two other theatres exist, but I think there's a chance it is notable if someone wants to adopt it. SportingFlyer T·C 03:15, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's in the nature of businesses like theaters that there is something published, because publicity is important for this branch. But do the sources you found just mention the theater or are they about the theater itself? Killarnee (talk) 04:37, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My German isn't very good - that's why I mentioned that I didn't see anything that was a clear pass, just mentions, but it has been mentioned more than other articles I've occasionally come across at Afd. SportingFlyer T·C 07:12, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Teen Intercontinental

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Created by a blocked sockpuppet. No evidence of notability. Tagged as such for a year without improvement. I checked a few sources and they all seemed to be unreliable, not significant coverage, variations of the same press release, etc. etc. This is related to but not quite the same as Miss Intercontinental which has been deleted and salted a bajillion times. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 06:38, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Keep~~: Weak but, sources such as UFDC, Pageantopolis, and El Diario (though with local focus) counts towards notability. Some archived coverage's are also found here: El Paso Herald Post, Kokomo Tribune 1, Kokomo Tribune 2. Enough to pass WP:SIGCOV.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 13:32, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pageantopolis is not a reliable source per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Beauty_Pageants/Sources (and I'm highly dubious of the reliability/independence of a source attributed to "admin" - why was nobody willing to sign their name to it). I have know idea what UFDC is meant to refer to (that acronym doesn't appear in the article at all). El Paso Herald Post and Komoko Tribune 2 are both single passing mentions in a long list of people attending an event, which isn't significant coverage. El Diario is too short to be considered significant coverage of any kind. Komoko Tribune 1 is closest, but I think you would need more than "person wins this contest" spruced up with a few biographical details to truly establish notability for a topic with as sorry a history as this one. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Ecuador is a country that is literally named after the equator (which runs through it) that separates the Northern Hemisphere and Southern Hemisphere. Articles on the English-language Wikipedia have to be mindful of WP:WORLDVIEW and Wikipedia:Notability is not a level playing field so that countries like Ecuador with a smaller population and fewer media outlets are not intentionally or unintentionally discriminated against and excluded. Yahsabaot (talk) 23:02, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Way to go with accusing me of bad faith while failing to provide any actual argument against deletion. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:39, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What does Ecuador have to do with a pageant that's 50 years old at this point? There have been several winners from multiple countries, that seems a rather worldly view. Oaktree b (talk) 21:17, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Lots of coverage for Miss Teen International [3], this is the Intercontinental version, which has little to no coverage that I can find. Oaktree b (talk) 21:20, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Withdrawing my 'keep' vote and spporting 'delete'. Mistaken for both Miss Teen International and Intercontinental were the same (thanks to Oaktree b for clarification). Upon review, I also don't find coverage enough to meet GNG.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 13:01, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iddaru (2024)

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Duplicate article of another one that exists hidden in the page history of Iddaru (2024 film), which is clearly about the same film, though it isn't entirely clear why that article was BLARed. Both articles should be merged if kept. CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:19, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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That is Oppanda Kannada Language Movie releaseed in 2022, But Iddaru is remake Movie in Telugu Languagw Movie. The Iddaru (2024 film) can be Murged or redirected to this article Sudheerbs (talk) 08:27, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CycloneYoris: can you explain what are the reasons for deletion for this article?

The history seems to be

23 October 2024 Iddaru (2024 film) created by @Monhiroe:
25 October 2024 Iddaru (2024 film) redirected to Oppanda as a dubbed version by @DareshMohan:
26 November 2024 Iddaru (2024) created by @Sudheerbs:
26 November 2024 Iddaru (2024 film) redirected to Iddaru (2024) by Sudheerbs
26 November 2024 Iddaru (2024) nominated for deletion by CycloneYoris
The only discussion I have found is at Talk:Oppanda#@Telugu film dubbed in Kannada? started by @Herodyswaroop:
The Telugu article seems to be at te:ఇద్దరు (2023 సినిమా). TSventon (talk) 11:12, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TSventon: I haven't expressed any desire to delete this article, and brought it to AfD mainly because of the duplicate article that exists, which is why I suggested to merge it with the existing one. CycloneYoris ^talk! 22:07, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Had this discussion before, this is a kannada movie dubbed in telugu and @Dareshmohan has confirmed this. So, we can merge with Oppanda article and mention iddaru is its telugu version comment added by Herodyswaroop (talk • contribs) 12:13, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and restore redirect of Iddaru (2024 film) to Oppanda per Herodyswaroop. Dubbed / partially reshot films do not get articles. Read Talk:Oppanda#@Telugu film dubbed in Kannada? for proof that the film is dubbed. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yamadheera (2024 film) for the precedent set that dubbed films do not get articles. The definition of a partially reshot film is a film where a minor part of the film was reshot and a majority wasn't. See List of multilingual Indian films#Partially reshot films, 99% of partially reshot films, do not get articles. The one instance where it has a separate article, 50% of the film was in fact reshot. The reason that this film can not get a separate article is that the lip sync issues are clear from the trailer itself. This [4] lacks lip sync while the same dialogue from the original [5] is in perfect lip sync.

As per the comment at the Indian cinema taskforce here, even if they are reshot partially, it still doesn’t need a separate article. If we are to delve into original research, they reshot a single dialogue in Telugu here vs the original here. The makers of the film were smart enough to release the same trailer as the original version. Complete with English dialogues, only the English dialogues would be in lip sync. When the trailer itself lacks lip sync, do you expect the film to be a straight film?

Regarding the Telugu wiki, even dubbed Telugu films get an article there. Apart from Hindi, since the 1990s several films have been dubbed in Telugu and became mainstream. DareshMohan (talk) 20:38, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect back: to Oppanda. Dubbed movies should be mentioned on the page of the original film, rather than having a standalone article.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 12:32, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Oppanda: Dubbed film. It can be redirect Monhiroe (talk) 19:10, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Oppanda and redirect: If it's notable, I'll go for keep, but for now, hmmm..... Intrisit (talk) 20:44, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

this is telugu stright film,this film made by telugu tamil and Kannada langues, each and every shot shooted in three langueges. Pandu147 (talk) 18:43, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Don't delete this one This movie is indian telugu language movie. AND PLZ ACTIVATE IT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pandu147 (talk • contribs) 19:38, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Supranet

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Fails WP:NCORP. Themoonisacheese (talk) 11:05, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I guess i'll make my delete position clearer in order to initiate the discussion: As has been shown in the article's talk page, "supranet" is not a word being used outside (and from the lack of any hits on search engines, even inside) of Gartner, Inc. It's a transparent attempt by the company to try to coin a word to describe what was obviously going to happen to anyone in the space at the time, which on its own wouldn't warrant deletion if it succeeded. The attempt failed in favor of the much more ubiquitous term Internet of things. Anecdotally, I work for a semiconductor company in the IOT space and none of our internal documents have ever mentionned "supranet", despite what it describes being bang on our market segment. Themoonisacheese (talk) 10:02, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Themoonisacheese I disagree. While it's definitely an antiquated term, I've found some sources (https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/713268,https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/629396) that indicate it was not used by just one company, and was (at one point) a potentially useful phrase. I think the article should be kept so that those who come across the term can still easily find out what it means. I'm happy to put in as much work into this as needed. JarJarInks (talk) 14:12, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JarJarInks: the articles you linked do not describe the same things as listed in the article we're talking about. they're describing Virtual private networks, as abstractions of private networks over the regular internet (hence, supra). If you want posterity for the antiquated use of "supranet" meaning what is now a VPN, i suggest adding a note on the VPN page. Themoonisacheese (talk) 14:22, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Themoonisacheese Is it possible to make this page into a redirect to VPN? I agree that the article's original subject doesn't meet Wikipedia standards. Also, sorry about any confusion, I'm really new. JarJarInks (talk) 14:44, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

sure, this is what we're here for. simply add a reply (ideally to the root of this thread) with "redirect" bolded (see WP:DISCUSSAFD) Themoonisacheese (talk) 14:46, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Virtual private network

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SUCH TV

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~~Regulatory actions/penalties like this and this are enough to pass WP:NCORP. Gheus (talk) 15:38, 3 December 2024 (UTC)~~ I've nominated this article under WP:NCORP as it is a for-profit media company. Regulatory actions or penalties like this and this are WP:ROUTINE news articles and come under WP:ORGTRIV. We need WP:SUBSTANTIAL coverage that direct and in-depth about this company. Otherwise, it clearly fails WP:GNG and WP:CORPDEPTH. Thank you. Gheus (talk) 12:23, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The nom seems to want to keep the article and the sourcing is fine. The ones used in the article and above count as RS. What was the issue, why was this nominated for deletion? Oaktree b (talk) 17:28, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, I don't want to keep the article - I have corrected my nom rationale. Gheus (talk) 12:24, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Procedural keep Please elaborate on a reason for deletion, Gheus. Nate • (chatter) 00:34, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for noting the mistake, Nate. I have updated my reasoning. Gheus (talk) 12:25, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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El Camino Media

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There isn't any significant coverage for this label. There are trivial mentions but nothing more. Frost 11:56, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: the article functions as a list of artists on the label. A majority of the artists are blue linked per WP:CSC (and can be expanded to more as I found sufficient sourcing for a couple), and there's several notable albums that make up a category attached to the page. Koopastar (talk) 05:42, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's an article about a company that doesn't meet the notability guideline for companies. Notability is not inherited. Having notable artists or albums doesn't make the label itself notable. Frost 05:56, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Abb Takk News

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The best source about this TV station is of Reporters Without Borders' article, but unfortunately it is very brief and says that this channel is known for "copying Indian TV channel ‘AajTakk’ down to its logo and most graphic designs." This is not enough to pass WP:NCORP which requires multiple in-depth articles in independent sources. Gheus (talk) 15:41, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List_of_television_channels_in_Pakistan#Urdu_news -Mushy Yank. 20:53, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Public News (Pakistan)

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Non-notable news channel, coverage is mostly related to its founder Yousaf Baig Mirza. Fails WP:GNG. Gheus (talk) 15:46, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comilla Polytechnic Institute

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The only independent reliable sources found are brief mentions within primary source news reports about broader events (e.g. https://www.thedailystar.net/news-detail-75355, https://en.prothomalo.com/bangladesh/5enz43u7pl, etc.). Per WP:SIRS, primary sources do not count towards establishing notability. This title was previously redirected to the supervising Bangladesh Technical Education Board, where the school is listed, but the redirect was removed by an editor without regard to Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Worldbruce (talk) 16:10, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Worldbruce, non-profit and government-run schools don't have to comply with WP:SIRS. They only have to meet the GNG.

Also, did you check for sources in the Bengali language? Or in the local newspapers, such as the ones listed in Comilla#Media? When an article says that a secondary school is one of the oldest and largest of its type in its entire country, and that it has thousands of students, the failure to find sources usually turns out to say more about our limited search skills than the actual availability of sources. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:02, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WhatamIdoing: Nearly all of my editing is of Bangladesh-related topics, so I'm constantly searching in Bengali, but sometimes forget that not everyone will know that, and neglect to mention it explicitly in nominations. In addition to general searches in Bengali, I specifically searched three local news outlets that in my experience are reliable: amodbd, comillarkagoj and dailyamadercomilla.

My reading of WP:ORG is that all schools must comply with WP:SIRS or WP:GNG, so I agree with you in part. Although WP:ORG's second sentence says "The scope of this guideline covers all groups ... with the exception of non-profit educational institutions, ...", its subsection WP:NSCHOOL says "All universities, colleges and schools, ... must satisfy either the notability guidelines for organizations (i.e., this page) or the general notability guideline." The subsection goes on to say that with respect to WP:ORG, for-profit educational institutions must in addition satisfy WP:COMMERCIAL. WP:SIRS is not part of the commercial requirements, but part of the top level "Primary criteria" section. WP:GNG doesn't spell it out as forcefully as WP:SIRS does, but says "'Sources' [used to establish notability] should be secondary sources ..." I can substitute that language for what I said about WP:SIRS in the nomination if you prefer, but the thrust of my argument remains the same.

It's true that Comilla Polytechnic Institute (1962) is one of the oldest government polytechnics in what is now Bangladesh, but the same can be said of the other 20 or so that were set up between 1955 and 1964. About 30 more have been established, I think all since 2000. Very little has been written about them individually, but some sources cover them collectively, so I believe a redirect to an article that treats them as a group is best. --Worldbruce (talk) 02:47, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The GNG doesn't "spell it out as forcefully" as SIRS because the GNG doesn't agree with SIRS. Secondary sources are not necessarily rare; a source that says CPI is "one of the oldest" is a secondary source (because it's comparing it against other schools, and comparison is a form of analysis, and analysis is the hallmark of a secondary source).

IMO some of the best sources for schools are government agency reports that cover multiple schools. A report that says something like these are bigger than those, these are cheaper than those, these require higher test scores than those, etc. would be perfect for getting a decent little encyclopedia article together for each of the schools in the report. (Neither CORP nor GNG require a source to be exclusively about the subject, though obviously the parts of a source that discuss only 'School 1' are not useful for determining whether 'School 2' is notable.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:01, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dharti TV

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Non-notable local channel, lacks independent coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Gheus (talk) 16:17, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SKANS School of Accountancy

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Non-notable for-profit accounting school, fails WP:NORG. Gheus (talk) 16:21, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Gheus, did you search for sources in Arabic? Did you check the Pakistani newspapers? WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:57, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that Pakistan is not an Arabic-speaking country, so asking me to do checks in Arabic is not ok. In Pakistani newspapers or magazines, I found this press release. This is a for-profit school and fails WP:NCORP criteria. Gheus (talk) 12:28, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kyohei Hagiwara

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MMA fighter fails WP:NMMA (no evidence of ever ranking in world top 10 for division) and WP:NSPORT/WP:GNG for lack of WP:SIGCOV. Coverage in article (and in WP:BEFORE search) is routine match coverage and/or non-independent coverage on the website of his fighting federation. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:36, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete No significant independent coverage. Match results are not significant and articles on Rizin's website are not independent. Fightmatrix has his current world ranking at #524, so he's not close to meeting WP:NMMA. Papaursa (talk) 17:41, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep there seems to be independent written match reporting (as opposed to just results) for some of his fights on Asian MMA - example Here I dont know enough about MMA coverage to know if this counts as significant coverage or not, but it seems like several taken together might… as well as plenty of Japanese sources if you search using his name in Kanji - This article of example for his fighting, and This article as an example of the coverage around his domestic violence scandal. All in all there seems to be enough coverage to satisfy general notability, and then it’s just a matter of someone adding the information from those sources to the article and citing them properly. Absurdum4242 (talk) 16:22, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Even independent match reporting is not WP:SIGCOV of the individuals in the matches; see WP:NOTROUTINE. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:39, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep: based on the comment above... The first article seems fine, second one is rather brief coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 21:24, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The London Scene (film)

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Article about a television documentary film, not properly sourced as passing either WP:NFILM or WP:TVSHOW. As always, films (regardless of their status as theatrical or television films) are not automatically entitled to Wikipedia articles just because they existed, and have to show some evidence of their significance (awards, cultural impact, etc.) referenced to WP:GNG-worthy coverage about them -- but this cites no referencing at all, and even its external link is a dead directory listing that just redirects back to the front splash page of the site rather than to any profile of the film, while searching that site for this film title fails to bring up evidence of any profile existing at a different URL either.
As I don't have good access to archived British media coverage from the 1960s, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody who does have such access can find enough coverage to salvage this, but simple existence isn't "inherently" notable enough to exempt it from having to have any sourcing. Bearcat (talk) 17:08, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Survival (TV series), which already has a paragraph about it as the first Survival film. While there are references to it in books about nature documentaries, it seems to always be in the context of the series - and looking at TV listings for 1st February 1961, it only aired in London, Anglia and the Southeast, which will limit contemporary reviews. It's a plausible search term, though, so the redirect is probably worthwhile. Adam Sampson (talk) 18:45, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment My usual source-check is confounded by the (probably not coincidental) Virginia Woolfe work of the same name. Darkfrog24 (talk) 22:07, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Brian Murphy (broadcaster)

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Sounds like a cool chap, but there's insufficient sigcov to establish notability. Jdcooper (talk) 17:11, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I couldn't find much of anything in Canadian media about this person; certainly a local legend, but that's about where it stays I suppose. Not enough coverage to have a wikipedia article. Oaktree b (talk) 21:27, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Last comment in the prior AfD wanted time to analyze the thousands of hits that came up in the newspaper archive, none of which were ever added here. Leading me to believe that this is not a notable individual for our purposes. The article has stayed pretty much the same when you look at the history back to 2018; having a prize at the local schoolboard is nothing notable here, the Blues Society prize would be too local for notability as well. Oaktree b (talk) 21:29, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I didn't have newspapers.com access at the time of the first discussion, so I couldn't review what the final commenter claimed to have seen, but I do have that access now — so I can confirm that once the search is sufficiently constrained to ensure that you're only hitting Brian Murphy the CHEZ-FM radio host from Ottawa and not other unrelated Brian Murphys, it consists predominantly of radio program schedule listings, which aren't support for notability, and what there is for substantive WP:GNG-worthy coverage about him doesn't surpass the purely local at all, and doesn't really add up to enough to make him markedly more notable than other local radio personalities who don't have articles. Bearcat (talk) 16:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin Kade

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non-notable musician, sourced entirely to blackhat SEO and the same "source". GRINCHIDICAE🎄 16:55, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, There's reporting on him from The New Times and so I added it in and he seems like a notable musician in Rwanda. He has a good career as a musician being both a solo artist and being reported by The New Times is very remarkable. Vikingsam (talk) 19:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: The New Times is giving me pause; it feels like the coverage in Indian or Nigerian media, where it seems everyone is a superstar, but no one else bothers to report on their accomplishments. Way too many hits in the one newspaper for this to be a coincidence... Feels like a PROMO. I'm happy to be proven incorrect, but that's the impression I'm getting. Oaktree b (talk) 21:35, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Girth Summit _(blether) 18:36, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

M. M. Akbar

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The person is not notable. The reference provided are only of some news, that too 'times of india', mentioning he is involved in a criminal case. His name itself came into the news just because he is accused involved in some criminal illegal activities. clearly fails natability. Also the references are arabnews and http://www.muhammmadnabi.info which is self published.No references, no structure, no good writing. ShukoorVarikkodan UA (talk) 16:55, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep I believe there is enough coverage spanning several years, which helps pass WP:GNG. For example, Deccan Chronicle (11 July 2016), Indian Express (20 March 2018), Scroll (3 March 2018), TOI (23 January 2021). TOI is not unreliable always, per WP:TIMESOFINDIA. I wonder there would be more in Malayalam language which I don't know. _Regards,Aafi ^(talk) 17:53, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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CU Note The OP is a sock, now blocked. I'm going to close this as quick keep. Girth Summit _(blether) 18:35, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alkis Raftis

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He fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage and also fails WP:ACADEMIC with not much impact on his field and only few publications that are not widely cited. Ynsfial (talk) 15:37, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. As per nom. Axad12 (talk) 21:12, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: h-index of 4; one reference to a connected source; my Google search found no significant, independent coverage. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:26, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I found one book review, JSTOR 1477747. That's not enough even to make an article about the book and redirect to it, and definitely not enough for WP:AUTHOR. We also don't have evidence for WP:PROF nor WP:GNG. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:03, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jamalon

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Fails WP:GNG; WP:NCORP and NOTCRUNCHBASE very much applies here. Defunct - mostly Arabic - booksales website/POD operation in the Middle East, first in Jordan then the UAE. It started up, it closed down. There is no enduring impact or change in the market that resulted from its existence. The only likely ATD would be a redirect to Fadi Ghandour, but at the most it would be one of hundreds, if not thousands, of investments that Ghandour has made - and it's not really outstanding or worthy of a merge at his page. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 15:36, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Genrich Sillé

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Disputed draftification, so here we are. It's hard to imagine this footballer being notable, playing in the amateur Dutch Tweede Divisie. Sources are WP:ROUTINE transfer announcements. Geschichte (talk) 14:45, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 02:50, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:06, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haringey Solidarity Group

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Extremely minor anarchist group, little evidence to demonstrate notability. Large absence of independent RS. Attempts to find sources largely fruitless, references in Scholar results predominantly self-published works or very brief mentions that aren't the subject of the article. PROD opposed due to results flagged in Google Books but from those accessible look to be unrelated. Delete. Rambling Rambler (talk) 14:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Asian League

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Very minor, short-lived political party with no impact. None of the sources provide significant attention, the fourth one doesn't even mention the party. Fram (talk) 14:39, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The article does not meet the notability criteria under WP:GNG, as it lacks significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. Additionally, WP:NORG is not satisfied. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 16:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. WP:GNG and WP:NORG are not met. As noted by the nom, the only sources in the article are either directory-style webpages (the database/registry entries expected for any such org) or, as noted, webpages which do not mention the org at all. Outside the article, my own WP:BEFORE has returned only trivial passing mentions like this or this - seemingly confirming the named candidate's association with the party, but not anywhere near the type/depth of coverage needed to establish NORG. Guliolopez (talk) 15:03, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rammstein Tour 2016

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Fails WP:NTOUR, article relies on primary sources. मल्ल (talk) 14:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Rammstein#Tours. Definitely fails WP:NTOUR. HorrorLover555 (talk) 15:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per WP:NTOUR. (It's generally not a good sign when it's "(musician) tour (year)" type names - almost a guarantee its a more run-of-the-mill set of tour dates.) Sergecross73 msg me 16:33, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Anna Holland

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At Template:Did you know nominations/Phoebe Plummer, I argued that this BLP does not meet the independent notability standards of WP:CRIMINAL; the article creator disagreed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:28, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Perhaps more input from others here. It was a protest, and in some ways exactly the result they were looking for. She was sentenced to prison time. — Maile (talk) 17:13, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't doubt that Maile66, but is that relevant to the notability criteria? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:13, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The protest might be notable, this person likely isn't. Oaktree b (talk) 17:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete pet WP:NOT. The last time I looked, we were not a a hagiography. Bearian (talk) 02:57, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This very much looks like WP:BLP1E. Am I missing something? TarnishedPath^talk 11:28, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Launchballer? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:29, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Delete~~ : Throwing soup at a painting isn't quite the level of criminal notability we look for... Could be mentioned in a brief article about the incident itself, not warranting an article for the individual. Or a one line mention in the article about the painting. Oaktree b (talk) 17:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Just Stop Oil Sunflowers protest seems like a fine alternative, I wasn't aware the article already existed. Oaktree b (talk) 17:04, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The subject of the article has received sustained international coverage over multiple years for their climate protests, and WP:GNG is met. WP:BLP1E doesn't apply here because this is not a "a low-profile individual" and their "role was both substantial and well documented." GeorgiaHuman (talk) 20:56, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Getting arrested at a protest in 2022? That's trivial coverage; most of the coverage is focused on the soup throwing incident. Oaktree b (talk) 21:04, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CarParts.com

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Following my nomination of Auto Parts Warehouse, I’m now nominating its parent company, Carparts.com, as its notability is highly dubious as well. All of the references currently listed are primary sources. The additional sources I’ve found derive their content substantially from primary sources (the company's press releases, financial reports, etc.). It appears that the company lacks independent reporting or analysis of its operations, achievements, or impact.

Another issue with Carparts.com is the presence of multiple links and redirects to its official website across other Wikipedia pages. It seems that the company is misusing Wikipedia for SEO benefits and promotional purpose.

Examples of links & redirects

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_LS contains a reference http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/LexusLS600/ redirecting to http://www.carparts.com/blog/2008-lexus-ls600h-l-road-test-review/

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_battery a link to https://www.carparts.com/blog/a-short-course-on-charging-systems/

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_7_Series_(E38) a link to http://www.carparts.com/bmw/740i

4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_alignment a link to http://www.carparts.com/alignment.htm

5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_33_Stradale a link to http://www.familycar.com/Classics/68AlfaT33Stradale/ redirecting to https://www.carparts.com/blog/1968-alfa-romeo-t33-stradale/ Maxvolt (talk) 13:10, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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To me, it seems like a possible attempt at promotion. I say: Delete. ParvatPrakash (talk) 13:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Ref bombed article with no single reliable source out of 32 references in the article as of the time I commented in this AFD. All sources come from PR distributors such as BusinessWire, PR Wire and the others published on reliable news websites are same copies published on PR wire and Business wire. It fails WP:NBASIC even if all 32 sources are combined. Mekomo (talk) 13:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: One Motley Fool story [6], which I don't think is a RS and a Forbes contributor [7], don't help notability. Rest of the sourcing is as explained in the nom. Oaktree b (talk) 14:23, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Sundarangudu

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Fails WP:NFILM. A cursory search didn't help. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:00, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is not a television film. Why was this listed on the Television Project's alert list?-Mushy Yank. 17:32, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. No review of the film other than the announcement of the release of the film. It fails WP:NFILM. Mekomo (talk) 13:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List_of_Telugu_films_of_2021#October_–_December -Mushy Yank. 15:06, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eitermillen

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A very small place with no notability of its own, better as a redirect to Contern. The sources often don't support the text (e.g. despite repeated claims that Eitermillen used to be at a place now called Maulin Diderich, I don't see any of the sources making that connection?) and are passing mentions or names on maps only. None of the sources in the article are significant coverage of this tiny hamlet (a "lieu-dit" is basically a named house or group of houses, not a once independent village), and the history and demographics seem to be WP:SYNTH or WP:OR due to this lack of sources. Fram (talk) 11:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect I do believe the subject matter here is notable, however it appears that the article in its current state lacks in sourcing to verify claims and establish said notability. Once redirected I can once again work on a draft or in my sandbox to compile more sources and improve the article so it’s ready for the mainspace. N1TH Music (talk) 13:15, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is an odd vortex of an article where it clearly exists on maps and in at least one source, but there's nothing else to support that source in anything that's easily searchable on the web: ie I can verify that the place exists just enough to know it's likely not a hoax, but not enough to get it past the WP:V we need for a legally recognised place. (The fact there are no page numbers for the 1889/90 source help nothing.) I'd prefer a result which allows restoration once verified. SportingFlyer T·C 04:15, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SportingFlyer well the source [8], it might be just a map but it’s posted on an official government owned website also if you look at the article List of Populated places in Luxembourg the sources cited is also that of a government owned website and is a database of all the legally recognised localities in Luxembourg an it lists Éitermillen. Is that not enough to pass WP:V? N1TH Music (talk) 11:25, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your first map shows Oetrange, Kackerterhaff, and Moutfort, but even when zoomin in no "Eitermillen" appears. Is it supposed to be where the Rue du Moulin and Route de Remich meet? Fram (talk) 11:41, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Fram there’s a search bar at the top wherein you can type Eitermillen and a point appears at the location was if you click the directions icon. Either way it’s in the database. I think I’ve found a clearer link here. Also here is another webpage from the government of Luxembourg website which also mentions Eitermillen. And yes it is around where Route de Remich and Rue de Moulin meet. Is that not sufficient to pass WP:V? N1TH Music (talk) 12:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and there’s also this which is a communal document discussing all the projects completed between 2017 and 2023 in Contern and there were 2 projects in Eitermillen which is mentioned by name on page 23 and page 32. N1TH Music (talk) 12:25, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Page 23 says "New railings on the Eitermillen", this indicates that it isn't really a populated place but a location, building, route... You wouldn't say "new railings on Contern", that would make no sense. Fram (talk) 12:53, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Fram might be a translation error, here’s the french version also those steps can’t refer to a building because there’s no building there, what they’re referring to is this path which is a public footpath connection 2 streets, there isn’t even a building there. Also what about the other citations I listed here. N1TH Music (talk) 13:08, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't looked at everything: after a map which doesn't mention Eitermillen, and a communal document stating that they will add railings to a path named Eitermillen, I now checked this one you gave, where the closest I can find is Hëttermillen, which is also the only results I get when searching that website for Eitermillen[9]. So, after three wild goose chases, I stop looking at sources you provide, as they are wasting my time. Fram (talk) 13:34, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Fram Strange, the 3rd and most recent source you checked, when I typed “Eitermillen” into google, google stated that found inside the link “ Concernant la réglementation temporaire de la circulation sur la N2 entre Sandweiler et le lieu-dit « Eitermillen » à l'occasion de travaux forestiers.” And yet in the website itself I can’t find it. I apologise I should have double checked before sending it.

But you seem to have ignored the source I mentioned was listed on the List of populated places in Luxembourg article. On page 15 if you press the eye icon on the file you can find it clearly lists it under both Eitermillen and Oetrange-Moulin. And while it does say that it’s not an “official locality” thats because Lieu-dits aren’t incorporated as such because that entails them being census subdivisions. Kréintgeshaff for example isn’t incorporated either, unless you think Kréintgeshaff should be deleted too, either way is this not evidence of Éitermillen being legally recognised? And I actually found more sources but it seems you don’t need to see anymore. N1TH Music (talk) 14:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure "at the Eitermillen" is a translation error. I'd err on the side of keep now. SportingFlyer T·C 19:35, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Still doesn't indicate much more than what we know, it's a "lieu-dit": our article on those isn't very good, but basically this is a named farm (or mill in this case), not an actual village. This is the Luxemburgish article on them[10], the translation makes it clear that these aren't really considered villages. Fram (talk) 20:10, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No - the translation of the Letzebuergish shows a lieu-dit could also have been anything from a house to a former locality, and we potentially have a census listing of 8 people living there which would indeed qualify it, if the source is any good (again this is where a lack of a page number hurts.) SportingFlyer T·C 20:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SportingFlyer do you not have access to the preview or something? Because when I view the source I can scroll through the pages of the book at located exactly where it says “Oetrange-Moulin”. The listing is on page 255. N1TH Music (talk) 21:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sudhasagar

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The page does not list any reliable sources. All that's listed are media and news articles in vernacular languages. The language of the page is also not appropriate for Wikipedia. Additionally, it does not conform to BLP policies and the subject of the article seems to have low notability. Seems unfit to me for Wikipedia ParvatPrakash (talk) 11:28, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Raimund Berens

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Cannot find any worthwhile coverage of this person. Run-of-the-mill businessman/film producer. Fails WP:GNG. Edwardx (talk) 11:17, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Sources that pass notability not found in the before search result and article has been in violation of BLP guidelines for lack of sources since 2013. Mekomo (talk) 14:39, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Otago Gold Rush (basketball)

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:06, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 08:16, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article is alot of work but the team has ample coverage about it as one of the top women's basketball teams in New Zealand.National Womens Basketball Championships Finals Tip Off Thursday, Long build-up finally over for Gold Rush, Basketball: Otago crowned WBC champions — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alvaldi (talk • contribs) 09:59, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The team played in the Women's Basketball Championship – a fairly unremarkable New Zealand domestic competition with no wiki page. Are you willing to demonstrate this team's notability by expanding the article? A general google search of "otago gold rush basketball" doesn't yield many results. That first article you linked for example is a copy and paste from Basketball New Zealand. The page is also a borderline Orphan. DaHuzyBru (talk) 10:36, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Sussex Newspaper

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I'm failing to find any coverage of this online newspaper in reliable sources. I therefore don't believe it satisfies WP:NNEWSPAPER, WP:NWEB or WP:GNG. While claims about it being the fastest growing (from the article) or the most popular (from their website) online newspaper in Sussex sound impresive my WP:BEFORE turned up no independent in depth coverage to corroborate. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 11:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, cannot even find an about page, apparently able to submit own articles. IgelRM (talk) 02:53, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as totally unverifiable, entirely unnotable and highly misleading. As a lifelong Sussex resident who is familiar with the county's published and online newspapers, alarm bells were already ringing when I saw this nomination and the claims being made in the article. In reality it seems to be a vanity site with a mix of churnalism and trashy stories scraped from the web, with absolutely no Sussex focus at all, and is not covered by any reliable sources. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 11:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lanka T10

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Domestic event with not enough coverage on independent reliable sources; Fails WP:GNG. Also, its season article. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 10:21, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I say let’s keep it. What do you guys think about it - @Bs1jac, Kumarpramit, WikiEditPS, Goodknowme, Joseph2302, PEditorS10, Ankurc.17, MNWiki845, Cric editor, and Godknowme1:. Pkr206 (talk) 19:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you'd ask me there are already multiple T10 leagues going on, and soon more will pop up. But I guess we could keep the main article and delete the season wise articles, just have the final results displayed in the main one Cric editor (talk) 19:49, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Follow the same logic which is being followed for domestic T20 Frachises.. Ankurc.17 (talk) 04:52, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which is to create articles only if it has WP:SIGCOV and passes WP:GNG. This one doesn't. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 07:11, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft it. The article doesn't have individual coverage or sources. Goodknowme (talk) 21:02, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pakistan Observer

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Non-notable newspaper, coverage is mostly related to its founder, Zahid Malik. Fails WP:NCORP. I suggest to delete this article and then redirect to The Bangladesh Observer which was once a notable newspaper known as Pakistan Observer in Pakistan but was later renamed after East Pakistan independence. Gheus (talk) 16:07, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ravi Motorcycles

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Non-notable motorcycle manufacturer. WP:CORPTRIV mentions like this are not enough to pass WP:NCORP. Gheus (talk) 15:20, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Non notable company. There are no sources other than the mentions of the company in primary sources. Mekomo (talk) 14:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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GTV Network (Pakistan)

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Non-notable local TV station. Lacks independent coverage that addresses the topic directly and in detail. Fails WP:GNG. Gheus (talk) 15:13, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hydra Ventures

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Fails WP:NCORP.Insufficient WP:ORGCRIT sources.

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Zero Hour (video game)

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Found reviews in The Games Machine and Softonic, and a news mention in PCGamesN. While this isn't terrible it also isn't enough to pass WP:GNG because PCGamesN doesn't really offer up any critical opinions, and everything else is an unreliable source. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 08:43, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. While I think a soft deletion would work in this instance in case the game becomes super popular (it was released only three months ago), the article does not really have significant coverage aside from The Games Machine article. The Softonic article I would also consider more unreliable as it appears user-generated and may not be independent with a download link. Conyo14 (talk) 18:17, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously, this is not a game for an international audience. It's targeted at local Bangladeshis, & it's quite popular here. That is why you will find numerous evaluations in Bangla newspapers. You can also read Sportskeeda's review and IGN's article, "Old-School Rainbow Six Spiritual Successor 'Zero Hour' Drops Launch Trailer" Prantoo Biswas (talk) 18:24, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sportskeeda is not reliable: WP:SPORTSKEEDA. Conyo14 (talk) 18:50, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment A source search should be conducted in Bengali per Prantoo Biswas to see if anything can be turned up. I'd do it myself, but I admittedly don't know the first thing about what Bengali sources are reliable, so I'll leave it in the hands of a more experienced editors. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 21:32, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jerome Xaba

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I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage of the subject, a South African cricketer, to meet WP:GNG. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 08:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aurora (text-to-image model)

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No evidence that Aurora is independently notable of Grok. All coverage frames this as a feature of Grok. Should be merged back into that article. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per nom User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 08:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Grok (chatbot). After doing a little bit of research, Aurora seems to merely be a codename of the text-to-image model; its actual function is just an image generator within Grok and its name isn't mentioned. I don't think this warrants a seperate article and would do a lot better being merged with the main article about Grok. Beachweak (talk) 09:55, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom

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Merge: per nom Schützenpanzer (Talk) 21:08, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hypoxida

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I couldn't find any source actually confirming that this genus exists. In all likelihood, it is a misspelling of Hypoxidia, itself a junior synonym of Curculigo. The latter does have a species Curculigo rhizophylla (at one point classified as Hypoxidia rhizophylla), which is likely what the simultaneously created "Hypoxida rhizophylla" was intended to refer to. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 07:12, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. There is too little information in the article too be sure (I don't have access to the cited book), but I suspect that User:Chaotic Enby is correct. In any case, even if the genus does exists there needs to be more to make a viable article. Athel cb (talk) 10:05, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment Yes. Looks like a misquote to me. The book cited has hypoxidia.[11] Thincat (talk) 11:56, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as a non-published misspelling; I suspect nom has it right. Also, move Hypoxida rhizophylla (without redirect, since not a published misspelling either) to Curculigo rhizophylla - might as well get an article started on that one, and add some more accessible sources (e.g. PoW). --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 12:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vampirefreaks.com

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Does not appear to be a notable company. The only reliable sources I could find that covered it were passing mentions to the website as a result of the Murder of Carly Ryan. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 05:13, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment references 1, 2 and 3 are the subjects websites. Ref 4, passing mention. Ref 5, they've organised a festival which is a 3 day event and touted as 'America’s largest 3-day gothic-industrial music festival and convention'. Ref 6 is a interview with one of the owners. Ref 7 now points to a casino website. Ref 8 another 'Dark Force event page which doesn't give any real detail about Vampire.com. Ref 9 is another interview. I will have another search before voting, but there doesn't seem to be anything indicating notability per WP:GNG. (Further edit) I've had a look gor referencs. I've added one from Kerrang about the network site closure. The only other references I can find are a tenuous connection to the murder mentioned above. Knitsey (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Internet aesthetic

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This is largely an essay lackign a sourced defintion of "internet aesthetic" and collection of topics that aren't supported through any source suggesting their connection to this term. This is largely WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. There is one source from Vogue in 2022 that references "internet aesthetics" but not in connection to wide range of examples provided here. ZimZalaBim ^talk 05:10, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Presents a list of things that are somewhat related, more of a meme or trends than any sort of related aesthetic items. Oaktree b (talk) 14:52, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete All of this is synthesis. Just because an aethetic or design or fashion is popular in the modern day and is discussed on the internet does not mean it is an "internet aethetic". That's just how the world works now, not a substantive cohesive concept: "that usually originates from the Internet or is popularized on it" – very little in the last 20 years wasn't popularized on the internet, so this is a meaningless characteristic unless you are just fluffing up the most recent and niche trends. "micro-trends such as mob wife and tomato girl summer" Groan. Which sources actually bring the concepts here together? Reywas92^Talk 14:56, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jhala Manna

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This article was previously deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jhala Man Singh and recreated under a different title with sufficient differences that G4 speedy deletion was declined.

However, the recreated version still does not show that the subject passes WP:GNG or WP:NBIO.

Most sources have one or a handful of passing or WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS of the subject (A History of Rajasthan, A History of Mewar, Battle of Haldighati, Jhālā rājavaṃsa, Mewar Saga, Mewar & the Mughal Emperors, and Maharana Pratap: The Invincible Warrior.
In addition to having trivial mentions, some sources are also considered of questionable reliability per WP:RAJ, such as Tod's Annals of Rajasthan
One source is WP:SELFPUBLISH: Sacred Mysteries from vanity publisher by Notion Press.
Chiefs and Leading Families in Rajputana has no mention of Jhala Man Singh/Man Singh Jhala/Jhala Bida/Jhala Manna/Jhala Sardar or any other configuration of his names.
Another "source" is a poem.
The final source is an e-commerce site.

No evidence of WP:SIGCOV in independent, reliable sources is found in a WP:BEFORE search. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Still not seeing notability, sources are as explained above, not much for showing notability. I still don't find any sources we can sue. Oaktree b (talk) 14:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Notable person. Mentioned in many sources. He played a significant role in the Battle of Haldighati. Lordo'Web (talk) 19:20, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Buffer shot

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Wikipedia is not a dictionary; sources for this are not apparent and if they were, this appears to be just a minor film technique. "Noddy" already covers use in news and interviews. There are currently no references. Nominating for AFD rather than boldly merging to see if there's any writing on buffer shots that I am missing. Mrfoogles (talk) 01:00, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Glossary of motion picture terms per WP:ATD.4meter4 (talk) 01:16, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge to Cutaway (filmmaking) -- Dr Greg talk 02:22, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They’re both editing techniques using insertion of material but their respective goals are opposite (variety/continuity), so merging is not necessary and might be confusing, don’t you think? -Mushy Yank. 05:02, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: It’s covered in reliable sources so I cannot see why it should be merged into another page. -Mushy Yank. 04:56, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge to Glossary of motion picture terms. While there have been several sources added, the entire article is a few sentences and could easily be merged into the article. AnotherWeatherEditor (talk) 15:30, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Could, but why should it be merged? -Mushy Yank. 16:45, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mushy Yank The article is currently a WP:DICDEF. DICDEF articles are not allowed, so we usually handle content like this inside glossaries. The encyclopedia won't lose any of this content it will just be housed in a different spot to comply with DICDEF. The cats can even remain on the redirect page so we won't lose navigation there either. Best. 4meter4 (talk) 19:07, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Cutaway (filmmaking) per Dr. Greg. This is a very closely related idea and could easily be accommodated there. I'd go so far as to argue that a buffer shot is a particular case of a cutaway. WP:NOPAGE definitely applies here, and I think this merge target makes the most sense. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:41, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose merge to Cutaway (filmmaking) per the comment by Mushy Yank. Buffer shots have a different goal and merging would lead to confusion. Glossary of motion picture terms is the better target as I already indicated above.4meter4 (talk) 19:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: It seems like the three related articles here are Buffer shot, Cutaway (filmmaking), and Nod shot. A nod shot is a kind of buffer shot which is a kind of cutaway. For example, see the first paragraph of Cutaway:

"The most common use of cutaway shots in dramatic films is to adjust the pace of the main action, to conceal the deletion of some unwanted part of the main shot, or to allow the joining of parts of two versions of that shot. For example, a scene may be improved by cutting a few frames out of an actor's pause; a brief view of a listener can help conceal the break. Or the actor may fumble some of his lines in a group shot; rather than discarding a good version of the shot, the director may just have the actor repeat the lines for a new shot, and cut to that alternate view when necessary."

Which basically describes a buffer shot. Commenters above have argued cutaways are mostly not meant for this, but according to the article itself, they often are. Mrfoogles (talk) 20:28, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The dictionary definition is "a shot that interrupts the main action of a film or television program to take up a related subject or to depict action supposed to be going on at the same time as the main action" by Merriam Webster. Mrfoogles (talk) 20:32, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(as nom) Merge to Cutaway (filmmaking) given that the article content is already there, there just aren't any citations. Mrfoogles (talk) 20:34, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment.@Mrfoogles, 35.139.154.158, Mushy Yank, Dr Greg A buffer shot is not a cutaway and a cutaway is not a buffer shot. They both use film splicing, but they are two different film editing ideas. I would support them being together in a larger article on film splicing, but not together under the name cutaway. Likewise nod shot could be included in the film splicing article.4meter4 (talk) 20:49, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@4meter4 can you clarify what the difference is? I and I assume most of the people here don't have a film editing background. Film splicing sounds the same as Cut (transition) on first glance but I'm going to assume those aren't necessarily the same. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:14, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DesiMoore So a "buffer shot" is sort of the "Correction fluid" of film making. It's a way to fix a mistake on camera through cutting out an unusable image on film and replacing it with a usable one without having to record new audio or film. The mistake could be anything from an actor tripping, to a boom mic being caught on film, to a person on the film crew accidentally being caught in a shot. Rather than reshoot a scene, they will do what's called a "buffer shot" by splicing in other footage from within that scene, such as another character's reaction (but not necessarily that). The point is, buffer shots don't change the scene in any meaningful way. There is no change in location, and the intent of the scene is not altered, and no new audio is recorded. Its sole purpose is to hide/remove visual errors caught on film through film splicing.

A Cut (transition) is different than a "buffer shot". A cut is specifically the footage used to link or transition from one scene into the next. This is usually done by film splicing in stock footage but can be done through other techniques such as fadeaways. It serves a completely different purpose/function than a buffer shot. These are planned transitions and are not a means of fixing accidental problems within a scene.

A Cutaway (filmmaking) is a purposeful shot designed from the beginning to cut from one space/location abruptly to another within a scene. It's intentional from the outset (its in the script). It could be done for humorous juxtaposition/irony for example. It could also be done for something as simple as a phone conversation between two characters where one sees one person talking on the phone in one location and then they cutaway to the another person talking on their phone in a different location. It is not used as a transition and is not used to cover up a mistake within a scene because it was planned from the beginning. Like the others, it does use film splicing.

A "nod shot" or "reaction shot" is a particular kind of stock footage shot that can be used in several ways. It's a standard within news media, and sometimes is done on sitcoms and other character dialogue centered shows. It could be used to cover up a mistake, it which case its acting as a "buffer shot". But it could also be used to finish up a scene which has audio but no accompanying image (happens more often in TV news) which would make it a "filler shot", or it could be used within a transition which would make it a cut. This type of footage probably wouldn't be used in a cutaway because cutaway footage tends to be very specific and requires a carefully planned shoot that most stock footage could not achieve. The point is, that all of these terms are defined by their purpose/goal. The only thing they have in common is the fact that they all use film splicing. Hope this helps clarify. Best.4meter4 (talk) 17:13, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clearing that up. Valuable information indeed! DesiMoore (talk) 15:26, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Glossary of motion picture terms. Although the article is well-cited, it is clearly WP:DICDEF. Merging to the glossary will create the least confusion, since a buffer shot is neither a cutaway nor a nod shot.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:39, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Panthro

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I can't seem to find anything reliable about them. They all fail WP:GNG. Toby2023 (talk) 01:13, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest merge to List of ThunderCats characters as a compromise. Dwanyewest (talk) 01:59, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to List of ThunderCats characters per WP:ATD, but cannot find enough significant coverage for articles. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:58, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to List of ThunderCats characters as proposed above. No indicia of independent encyclopedic notability. BD2412 T 04:09, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per WP:ATD. Not enough properly sourced material to meet WP:GNG, which means this is inappropriate for an article. Shooterwalker (talk) 21:12, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Panthro: Keep I was expecting to vote Merge but then I took a look at the article and its source list. Enough of the sources are both 1) reliable and 2) discuss this character critically. It's just that the article text doesn't translate that into a fully fleshed out cultural impact/criticism section. The Hendershot source stands out the most. This is a skeletal/stub article that could be expanded. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:46, 4 December 2024 (UTC) Tygra and Snarf (ThunderCats): Also keep. They're less well sourced but they're sourced enough. Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:29, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I hit up Google Scholar looking for more sourcing. I can't get past the paywalls, but a current university student with library access probably could. Here are some promising ones. Panthro: Nerds of Color (Dissertation); Tygra: Challenge; Snarf: Toys as Popular Culture; also Male Gaze. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:11, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the above sourcing. Jclemens (talk) 06:49, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge per ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ - I agree that there isn't enough significant coverage for a standalone article.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:28, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reverse walkthrough

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A) has been unsourced since 2014, B) most uses of "Reverse walkthrough" online are either walkthroughs of a Hyperdimension Neptunia game, or to do with a completely different meaning (Video_game_walkthrough but starting at the end and backtracking?? Doesn't matter, only source I could find of this meaning is WP:UNRELIABLE) User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 03:28, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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BiSheng compiler

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Article fails WP:GNG and WP:PRODUCT. Rainsday (talk) 01:45, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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It says the compiler was integrated into EulerOS, perhaps merge to there or delete for lack of reliable sources. IgelRM (talk) 02:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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BlueOS

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Article fails WP:GNG and WP:PRODUCT. Rainsday (talk) 02:09, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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● Keep- Covered in Multiple Reliable Sources, thus passing WP:GNG. 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 19:29, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There are multiple secondary sources cited in the article with by-lines authors. Without a source analysis from the nominator explaining otherwise, I'm not seeing a reason that doesn't pass WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 03:17, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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L2HC

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Hanna Harrell

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Non-notable figure skater; does not meet the criteria of WP:NSKATE. Despite the volume of provided sources, most of those are competition results and databases, and what isn't appears to mostly be skating blogs. I'll let the community decide whether what's there qualifies as "significant coverage." Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:47, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 01:54, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep. Hanna Harrell medaled at the US senior championships. Significant coverage surely exists. --Moscow Connection (talk) 11:53, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NSKATE calls for a gold medal at the senior national champiomships; her highest finish was 4th. Bgsu98 (Talk) 12:38, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NSKATE says that the criteria are chosen on the grounds that "significant coverage is likely to exist for figure skating figures if they [do these things]". And I think it's impossible that a US championships medalist would not have significant coverage. --Moscow Connection (talk) 12:59, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did a very quick search and have found an NBC article ("Hanna Harrell talks taking on Russians at world junior championships") and a YouTube documentary/reportage by U.S. Figure Skating ("Portrait of a Skater — Hanna Harrell"). There's also a full-fledged biography on the Texas Children's Hospital website (here). --Moscow Connection (talk) 12:59, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The NBC article and YouTube story are both interviews so they don't count towards notability per WP:Interview#Notability which requires the interview include reliable secondary coverage (very few interviews have this). I've had conversations with editors in the last few months around interviews counting and in every case, interviews as sources I presented were denied as counting towards notability. The Texas Children's Hospital article is promoting the hospital so I don't think it wouldn't count as either. Nnev66 (talk) 15:18, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
She's an athlete that has competed for her country internationally. There are similar athletes on Wikipedia whose notability isn't questioned with far less developed articles. I can't understand why this is even an issue. ash (talk) 14:46, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Competing internationally isn't inherently notable. Unfortunately, nothing that this skater has done meets the standards of notability established per WP:NSKATE. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:29, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fortunately, she meets WP:GNG. --Moscow Connection (talk) 03:39, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I don't understand your agenda here on AfD.
Like, you nomitated Kamil Białas 2 (two) times with exactly the same rationale:
· Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kamil Białas
· Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kamil Białas (2nd nomination).
Are you planning to nominate it 100 times? (It is a good tactics that I have seen being used successfully. Sooner or later no one notices and the proposal passes. I can't be here on Wikipedia 24/7.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 03:49, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Sufficiently notable for inclusion per GNG. Vedicant (talk) 21:06, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I believe these two sources from the article, which have WP:SIGCOV, count towards WP:GNG. The others are standings, passing mentions, or interviews. I searched Proquest and Newspapers.com but didn't find anything there. Nnev66 (talk) 15:26, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1. Capellazzi, Gina (February 26, 2019). "Hanna Harrell ready to make her 'debut to the world' at the 2019 World Junior Figure Skating Championships". figureskatersonline.com.
2. Rutherford, Lynn (March 7, 2019). "Ambitious Harrell Will Reach for the Stars in Zagreb". U.S. Figure Skating. Archived from the original on March 15, 2019.
Weak Keep I think NATHLETE can be established, but some work is needed. What's there now is a start, there are too many shared references, but given the information in the article so far, I am willing to believe that more references specifically about the subject can be found. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 21:29, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I searched for additional references but couldn’t find any. The subject showed promise in 2018-2019 and there were two articles published in figure skating sites (I’m going to assume they are reliable sources). But then she was injured and from the article she hasn’t performed well after that. So I wouldn’t necessarily expect to find anything else but perhaps someone will in next few days. Nnev66 (talk) 21:47, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Lacking any sort of news coverage [12] is about the best there is, and it's likely not a RS. Being a patient at the hospital is fine, but it doesn't prove notability. The other sources used in the article are primary or PR items. Oaktree b (talk) 14:56, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eldon Howard

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Hasn't changed since previous AFD. Jay Cubby 02:48, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete unclear why the article was kept per no consensus in the previous AfD. Allan Nonymous (talk) 22:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yaya Darlaine Coulibaly

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Can't seem to find any WP:SIGCOV on this player, even after several search uses multiple varieties of his name. The lack of stats is also a bit telling. Anwegmann (talk) 02:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:56, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Mrvan

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procedural nomination on behalf of cx zoom, per this rfd discussion. as he says, he believes frank j. mrvan is the primary topic for the name, so i guess frank mrvan jr. could have a hatnote? cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 01:37, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect/retarget to Frank J. Mrvan per cx zoom. Andre🚐 01:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Frank J. Mrvan as already nominated by myself before. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 11:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Frank J. Mrvan per CX Zoom. mwwv ^converse∫_edits 18:07, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Frank J. Mrvan but I have converted Mrvan from a redirect to a surname SIA. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:12, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sanjay Kumar Verma

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This article is clearly not ready for mainspace but a new user has now move-warred to keep it in mainspace from draft.

Sourcing in the article is inadequate for a BLP and are mostly primary sources. Better to continue to incubate in draft, if not delete outright per the last AfD's consensus. ―"Ghost of Dan Gurney" _(hihi) 11:24, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The last version of the article by the creator stated he was born in Kerala before another user changed it to Bihar without adding a source on the matter.[13] ―"Ghost of Dan Gurney" _(hihi) 11:42, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there!I was the new user that "move-warred" to keep this article in mainspace. This article is based on the article for Escott Reid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escott_Reid, however it contains more sources.

All sources are vetted and from the Indian government (2 articles), neutral sources (1 article) or press (2 articles).

Beyond the article,

I moved the page to article, ghostofdangurrey moved it to draft, I removed an uncited sentence and moved it to article (which I assumed was the best way to work based on the details from the help articles). While I understand if there is room for improvement, gatekeeping editing and using words like move-warred (when I apologized for moving it following a comment), is an interesting way to moderate. Researchmoreorless (talk) 12:15, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As the only thing to change since the last AfD is something that would fall under WP:BLP1E. Simonm223 (talk) 13:01, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I feel like Detective Columbo right now. Wait, what was that last thing? Covering up an international assassination plot and getting you and your cute family deported and expelled from a country famous for its super nice diplomatic culture? I think that’s more than BLP1E. This is the stuff of which procedurals are made. Bearian (talk) 09:50, 3 December 2024 (UTC) I would not oppose a ~~murder~~ merger to Canada–India diplomatic row. Bearian (talk) 09:52, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would also be amenable to a merge to Canada-India diplomatic row. Simonm223 (talk) 13:29, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per nom as there is no appropriate coverage to warranty an entry especially for a BLP and the information is already included in Canada-India diplomatic row FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:16, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Canada–India diplomatic row#2024 expulsions. Redirects are cheap. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:00, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kamil Białas

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Bgsu98 (Talk) 12:05, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I think the topic meets the general notability guideline (WP:GNG).
I did a quick search and found this and this. (Two articles by Dziennik Polski, titled "Kamil Białas znów stanął na podium" and "Łyżwiarze nie mogą się rozwijać bez startów".) There's also a YouTube interview, here.
The Polish website says "Sorry, you have been blocked", so I don't think I should bother to read and search further. --Moscow Connection (talk) 15:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Social media platforms are user-generated and should never be provided as references to articles. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:42, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dziennik Polski is a newspaper.
Or are talking about YouTube? If it is an official account of a respected media brand or journalist, then it can be used. (As any other documentary or reportage.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 16:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was talking about YouTube. Even if the source comes from an official account of a media brand, social media can't be used anywhere as they are user-generated sites, thus generally unreliable per WP:NOTSOCIALNETWORK and WP:SELFPUB. Social media as references also don't demonstrate the article's notability. Otherwise, I thought we only used reliable secondary sources... ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:30, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Have you actually read the pages you are linking?
· WP:NOTSOCIALNETWORK is completely unrelated to this discussion.
· WP:SELFPUB actually says the opposite of what you are saying: "Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information [about themselves]". --Moscow Connection (talk) 20:50, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Btw I don't understand why are are attacking me. :-) When I posted my first comment on this page, I didn't see the previous discussion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kamil Białas) where you voted "weak keep" and showed exactly the same sources I found. You should better say something to the nominator. Who nominated this article twice with exactly the same rationale. I don't know about the English Wikipedia, but on some other Wikipedias (in some other languages, like Russian, for example) it is explicitly forbidden to nominate an article again for the same reason. (It is done as a measure against those who are obsessed and would otherwise nominate the same article again and again even after they have been told it can stay. They do it in hope that their opponents will get bored or will simply not notice a new nomination.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 21:05, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The subject meets WP:SPORTCRIT with multiple pieces of SIGCOV presented from reliable sources, which the nominator fails to address in any capacity. JTtheOG (talk) 01:42, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hamidreza Sadri (Taekwondo)

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Fails notability, it was deleted once after this discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hamidreza Sadri now created under another name by the same user to trick wikipedia. This is also clearly against WP:COI. Sports2021 (talk) 22:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - given that this was created by the same user as the one that created Hamidreza Sadri, could this be WP:G4 speedy deleted? Both claim to just be direct translations from Farsi Wikipedia. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:41, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at the deleted version, and had to decline the G4 as this one has more content and more sources, so can't really be considered identical enough. I'm not commenting on whether this demonstrates any notability either, only that it appears (superficially) to be a more credible attempt at least. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:58, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep to me the users decided wrongly about last AFD , because he has the notablity of sportpersons in Wikipedia and I Didn't tricks anyone I just couldn't put New AFD, however This article is only translated from the farsi Wikipedia . Hamidreza Sadri is holder of Silver medal Asian junior and Gold medal at military world games which both competitions are notable for Wikipedia and many other international tournaments and now he plays Azarbaijan national team and these days he injured but he will get back to competitions soon

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There is no such thing as "users decided wrongly"; everyone is free to make their arguments as they see fit, and the closer of the earlier AfD discussion certainly closed it correctly as reflecting consensus. You may not like the outcome, but you should not dismiss it as "wrong". -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Again misinformation here, he never won a gold at Military World Games, he probably won a medal in World Military Championship (a different competition with a lower level) even though even winning medal at World Military Games (which he never won) doesn't justify notability. this is clearly WP:COI, trying to promote someone. Sports2021 (talk) 12:30, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sports2021 he never won? What do you mean exactly?! All the military world games organized by the International Military Sports Council (CISM) and Hamidreza Sadri won gold medal at it! Here you can find out! And he achieved the best technical player in This tournament! *Timsar* (talk) 14:25, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sports2021and I'm not promote someone! He had farsi and Azarbaijani wiki I only translated it to English wiki. *Timsar* (talk) 14:28, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sports2021 I checked your actions many times on many articles Like this one! Please check Wikipedia:Assume good faith and Wikipedia:Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point *Timsar* (talk) 15:06, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

World Military Games and World Military Championships are two different things. both of are not notable in wikipedia standards. but at least World Military Games has some level of importance because it's a multisport event. someone who never won a major senior World or continental medal (probably never even passed the first round) and never qualified for the Olympics fails Wikipedia:NSPORT. Sports2021 (talk) 15:41, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But I think International Military Sports Council is notable too! They have article in wiki! *Timsar* (talk) 16:00, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sports2021 a sport person When is notable that plays for International tournaments in order to achieve topic or medal not mentioned to Olympics or ... Whi *Timsar* (talk) 16:06, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Nothing has really changed in the six weeks since the article was previously deleted. The coverage is still insufficient to meet WP:GNG and he has no accomplishments that would meet WP:MANOTE or show he is a top 10 world athlete (a criteria used in sports such as boxing and MMA). World Taekowndo shows he has never won a fight (or even a round) at any international tournament they recognize. Success at minor or youth events does not show English WP notability, nor does the fact he has an article at any other wiki. Papaursa (talk) 19:38, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you are looking for WP:GNG or WP:MANOTE you can just search him in Persian "حمیدرضا صدری (تکواندو)" and if you are looking for all the events where he fights in ; you can just click here *Timsar* (talk) 21:56, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at taekwondodata.com and a number of other sources. He simply doesn't meet WP:GNG or any SNG. Different wikis have different notability criteria and he doesn't meet any of the ones on the English WP. Papaursa (talk) 20:29, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All the content in farsi and English wiki are same, how you come that they have different notablity criteria?! It seems you didn't check wright, anyway All his honors mentioned in his article in 3 languages, All his honors are mentioned in many sources in several languages *Timsar* (talk) 09:03, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment All the Wikipedia's rules in all languages are getting update of English wiki! So they have not different rules with each other. And Hamidreza Sadri (Taekwondo) article is only a translation of the orginal ones in farsi. And he is qualified enough for have an article He is champions in world military championships and Silver medal of Asian championship 2017. So if these tournaments are not notable whay they have article in Wikipedia? I have nothing else to say. Thanks for the corporation

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Comment Please notice that the page creator is now globally blocked. Sports2021 (talk) 01:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are they a sockpuppet and, if so, could this be WP:G5 deleted? Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:45, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I took a look and apparently he used sockpuppets in another wikipedia not sure if that counts in English wikipedia. Sports2021 (talk) 23:28, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tibet Tourism

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There does not appear to be any significant coverage of this company to pass WP:NCORP. The sources that were added by the article creator [14] in response to my PROD are merely company listings on other websites and not significant coverage. – notwally (talk) 23:00, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KEEP. This is a listed company that has been on the Shanghai Stock Exchange since 1996, and there is no problem with WP:NORG (WP:LISTED). In addition, I added Western media sources such as Financial Times and Bloomberg. TinaLees-Jones (talk) 23:21, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

From the policy you cited: "There has been considerable discussion over time whether publicly traded corporations, or at least publicly traded corporations listed on major stock exchanges such as the NYSE and other comparable international stock exchanges, are inherently notable. Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in this (or any other) case. However, sufficient independent sources almost always exist for such companies, so that notability can be established using the primary criterion discussed above. Examples of such sources include independent press coverage and analyst reports. Accordingly, article authors should make sure to seek out such coverage and add references to such articles to properly establish notability." The Financial Times and Bloomberg company profiles you added are not significant coverage that would establish notability, and I have not found sources with significant coverage when trying to research this company. If these sources exist, then you should add them into the article. – notwally (talk) 23:39, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, I believe that all Wikipedia editors are equal; therefore, the use of the term should reflects a deficiency in reasonableness and mutual trust. Secondly, this is a Chinese publicly traded corporation, and I have included extensive information in Chinese; but I would not assert that proficiency in Chinese is necessary to comprehend this material. TinaLees-Jones (talk) 00:07, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comprehension isn't the issue, lack of coverage is. We'd need stories in news media about this corporate entity, to show notability here. Oaktree b (talk) 21:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TinaLees-Jones, I'm not sure what kind of non-WP:AGF nonsense you are going on about, but "should" is literally taken directly from the notability guideline you cited: "Accordingly, article authors should make sure to seek out such coverage and add references to such articles to properly establish notability." I do not see significant coverage from any of the sources you have added, including the Chinese-language citations. If any non-English sources do have significant coverage, could you please point them out? – notwally (talk) 22:48, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article contains a substantial amount of information regarding Chinese literature, complete with Google Books sources and links. I have additionally attempted to incorporate other English literature mentioned in the article. These book sources have demonstrated their significance and relevance in comparison to web sites. I trust you will also acknowledge that the entries are more comprehensive and reflect the authors' efforts. TinaLees-Jones (talk) 23:19, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep According to WP:SIRS notability for listed companies on major exchanges (such as the Shanghai Stock Exchange) can be shown using analyst reports. Examples of in-depth analysis for this company include:

Pacific Securities (太平洋证) 2021 results analysis: https://pdf.dfcfw.com/pdf/H3_AP202109221517795746_1.pdf?1632294522000.pdf 2021-09-17
Bank of China International Securities, In-depth *Company* Tibet Tourism (600749) Review: 11 billion yuan acquisition of Lakala as a third-party payment https://stock.finance.sina.com.cn/stock/go.php/vReport_Show/kind/search/rptid/530988963292/index.phtml
Huaxin Securities (华鑫证券) Tibet Tourism (600749) Annual Report Commentary: Non-operating income reverses company performance https://stock.finance.sina.com.cn/stock/go.php/vReport_Show/kind/search/rptid/507833584150/index.phtml

A long list of analyst reports can be found here[15] Oblivy (talk) 03:56, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are analyst reports are the same as comments on the company's annual reports? Also, it does not appear that the list of reports you provided are all about this company. – notwally (talk) 22:48, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Financial summaries don't help show notability, literally every publicly traded company will have one (its the very basic part of a robust and accountable financial system). Building an article out of these summaries doesn't prove notability, only that they haven't lied in their financial reporting. Oaktree b (talk) 21:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and redirect to Tourism in Tibet This article doesn't really impart any information about the company, just its mere existence, and the title is something that the average reader should expect to lead to information about general tourism in the country, not a corporate article (which...the actual offerings of the company, not its mundane stock performance or corporate mergers/transactions, should be highlighted here rather than hilariously incorrect prose like six companies constitute a solid tourism service system); if it is kept, this needs to be renamed to its full corporate name for transparency and hatnoted in Tourism in Tibet. Nate • (chatter) 23:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete -- per Nate's above argument(s). Additionally, strongly agree that if it is kept, some additional form of transparency AND differentiation (from Tourism in Tibet) is needed, lest Wikipedia provide "Tourism Tibet" marketing.MWFwiki (talk) 00:40, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ruger LC carbine

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Disputed WP:BLAR but this article fails our WP:NOT policy, it is little more than a catalogue listing for two of the related guns by the company. As the BLAR was disputed, I proposed redirect to Sturm, Ruger & Co.#Products. Bobby Cohn (talk) 20:27, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I object. I created the page for other to edit it as they wish. I oppose the deletion of the LC carbine wikipedia page outright. Stormm001 (talk) 20:41, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Firearms-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Needs sourcing... Some coverage in the NRA magazine [16] and in Guns magazine [17]. The NRA would certainly be biased, but I see no reason it would not be a RS. Oaktree b (talk) 01:40, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank You 🙏🏻 Stormm001 (talk) 04:17, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I would point out that the coverage is not the issue and I too saw some reviews in conducting a BEFORE. I'm not saying the notability of the subject is the concern here. To Oaktree b's point, not only does it need additional sourcing in the article, it needs content. My argument instead was a WP:NOT policy. Redirect and tag with {{R with possibilities}} and {{R with history}} but presently two infoboxes and some catalogue stats do not an article make. Like I said, this is just the formal process of a disputed WP:BLAR. Thanks, Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:34, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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