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Those Mergers

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Honestly, what is the point? Who added them? Enker, Quint, and King, are entirely seperate characters to Wily, theres no reason to merge the articles with this one. 

19:06, 05/02/2005

William?

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- Just in case... is Dr. Wily's middle name William for sure? Is it really just fandom?

Dr. Wily's middle name is W. We don't know if it's really "William" or not - Capcom never said. --Boco XLVII 13:43, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Lol, maybe it stands for Wily. Dr. Wily Wily.

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Zero was neither originally good, or killed by X. As shown in MMX4, Sigma (then the leader of the Mav. Hunters) confronted the maverick zero in a cave which was when he (Sigma) became maverick and (probably) a virus. Zero was sent back to base and modified, and becomes the leader of the hunters before MMX1. Zero, dying in MMX1 and MMX5, officially either seals himself away in an ending of MMX6 (MMX6 and later were not under Keiji Inafune's control, who intended to end MMX in MMX5 so he could start MMZ) or continues through the Elf Wars to defeat Omega (as shown in the RTRZ Telos drama tracks. This means that THAT Zero is already a clone) and sealing himself away afterwards. The latter conforms better to the MMZ timeline. Sotek 7 July 2005 15:24 (UTC)

200X and 20??

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A note about the dates for the BN and the Classic series...I don't really think BN and Classic are related at all. I think Capcom has stated before that BN takes place in an "alternate" universe (thus unrelated) from the other Mega Man games. Date-wise, the original Mega Man and MM2 take place in 200X and they don't say 20XX until MM4 and MM5, so if you did the math with those dates, we could figure out that the original Mega Man actually took place around the year 2008, which is kind of interesting (and that is what Capcom actually said it took place in, not that it matters). Just thought you might find it interesting. --Yahweh 05:05, 14 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Quote a source where Capcom said that, please. --Boco XLVII 17:03, 14 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wily's Age

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I added Dr. Wily's age (57) since it says Wily is 57-years-old in the ROCKMAN & FORTE game manual (Japanese), since that is an interesting note to put in here. --Yahweh 17:35, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Weil is NOT Dr. Wily

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I have removed references to Dr. Weil (pronounced Dr. Vile) from this article. He is not related to Dr. Wily and hence does not belong in this article. Wolf ODonnell 14:36, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In case this subject comes up again, it is confirmed Weil is officially not Wily at this point.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 18:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wily's reason to be evil?

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I noticed that the article says 'Shortly after the completion of the eight robots, Dr. Wily turned evil and reprogrammed the six "-Man" robots to do his bidding'. However, it did not specify WHY he turned evil. I beleive it was because he thought Dr. Light was taking all the credit for their work. However, I might be wrong. May someone clear up this confusion for me?

Edit: Indeed, I've noticed in the Mega Man's article, it mentions Wily being jealous of Light. I'll edit Wily's article to go with this. Cronosonic 09:33, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Name Trivia

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  • Wily's name is sometimes misspelled in different (language or machine) versions of the games. His name is sometimes written "Wiley" or "Willy". This led to several people preferring to call him Doctor Willy, which is closer to a first name than the "evil" adjective.

Okay, this statement made absolutely no sense so I rewrote it to make it sound a little more reasonable. (user:HannuMakinen).

  • It is popular fanon to extend his middle name as "Wiley" in honor of early translations.
Sorry, but I have never, ever heard of this before. It's a ridiculous thing besides. "Doctor Albert Wiley Wily"?! Tch. So I've nuked it. ~ Joseph Collins 06:36, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Zero's History and Origins

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Alright. Let's be reasonable about this... You find me a some place that has direct quotes about the history of Zero and Wily and I'll remove the tag I placed up there. As it stands, there is no cited proof that Wily put any sort of virus into Zero and Sigma was most certainly not infected when he punched Zero in the crystal in the pre-X1 flashback shown in Rockman X4.(Sigma rebelled against humanity all on his own as seen in Irregular Hunter X) There's also no real proof that Wily "implanted special memory parts to manipulate (Zero) indirectly so as not to awaken rebellious feelings" It's all theory and hearsay. There's a few other things I'd like to point out, but I think you get the drift. ~ Joseph Collins 06:47, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Irregular Hunter X also said that Dr. Cain died, yet he's in MMX2 and MMX3. What's your point?70.16.25.12 20:10, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Isn't IHX a completely different timeline anyway? Especially considering all the rectons it makes... --ACE Spark 01:01, 11 June 2007 (UTC) Hmm, i've just noticed, we've both replied to a several month old message, go us XD - ^ above user.[reply]

Add to list of Evil Geniuses?

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He fills the role! How else does did he think of those damned blocks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.9.223.94 (talk) 00:37, 15 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Serges

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I had an idea that Serges from X2 could also be related to Wily as Isoc is rumored to be. The X-Hunters got all of Zero's parts. In the true story, X recovers them and Dr. Cain rebuilds Zero. When he shows up to kill the Copy/Shadow Zero, he suddenly has the Z-Saber. It seems Serges added the sheath for the saber to Zero's body and he also had some physical differences from X1 Zero. It seems Serges, while in possession of Zero's parts, must have made some modifications. To do so he would have to have much knowledge of Zero as Gate in X5 (or was it X6?) could not uncover 100% stats and info on Zero. I'm just saying that in my opinion, Wily has almost as strong a connection to Serges as he does to Isoc. Of course, both can't be proven without a statement from Capcom. But if Isoc makes the article, I believe Serges should as well. Gavyn Sykes 21:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wilys age

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If he's age only was mentioned in Rockman & Forte japanese manual, should we really have it on the article?

I mean, sometimes official manuals can be a little weird..

I'll change the line like: (According to the japanese manual of...)


Wily not notable? Real World References? What about these?

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I see the Wily article was nuked for being unnotable. Ok.. lets see:

  • He's appeared in over 20 games of a major Video Game Francise. It's not as though he's a one off villian. If the one off characters from Halo can get Articles - I don't see why one of gaming's biggest villians shouldn't have one.

None of this "Halo is more popular" - Megaman's been around ALOT longer.

  • Appeared in the Captain N cartoon. This Cartoon has nothing to do with Megaman aside from the characters being used, and was funded by Nintedo, not Capcom. This means - he was big enough back then to be included in a non-Capcom cartoon.
  • He's also appeared in the offical Megaman cartoons, both the US and the Japanese OVA. If he wasn't notable, he wouldn't have appeared in both.
  • He is frequently listed in articles related to video games. I've seen him in several more, but I can't spend all day posting here.
  • Too many numerous video tributes to mention.
  • He often appears alongside Megaman in cameo appearences elsewere.
  • The Japanese sourcebooks! Not every series gets sourcebooks as detailed.

There are other examples out there - I just don't have the time to sit here arguing. Nor do I care, but Dr Wily definately deserves his own article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ACE Spark (talk • contribs) 07:32, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A merge proposal

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Suggesting combining Lord Wily into here, reason being it can buffer this article as well, and most characters that have more than one version of themselves have their variants listed in one article as appropriate. (and yes I realize Wily EXE is different in character than Wily Classic, but it seems a good bet to save both subjects from a list fate)--Kung Fu Man (talk) 18:53, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 07:26, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Doctor Wily → Dr. Wily – This character is always referred to with the shortened "Doctor" as of many sources, like IGN [1], Gamespot [2] and others. Thus it meets the WP:COMMONNAME requirements for "Dr. Wily" to be the article title for this subject. Hill Crest's WikiLaser (Boom.) (talk) 23:03, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Pronunciation?

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How is the character's name pronounced?, is it Willy, or why-lee, I've heard people say both, or something else? have more than one way been used? has it never been officially been stated? It appears to be originally translated from Japanese. Have different spellings been used, confusing this further?  Carlwev  13:17, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Hill Crest's WikiLaser! (BOOM!) 04:19, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

references

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Reference 10 in the current version lead to a side about home designers and has no relevance to this topic. Can someone fix that? Gial Ackbar (talk) 10:17, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Usability of Guinness World Records Gamer's Edition

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To me the Guiness Book of Records always seemed to be a reliable institution. The cited Guinness World Records Gamer's Edition seems to have been published in book form, so presumably there is the usual editorial oversight we expect from non-self-published books? So is there really a basis to discount that source? Any guidance in guidelines or established discussions? Pinging Kung Fu Man. Daranios (talk) 11:12, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Guinness itself can be reliable just like IGN is. But the source you wanted to use as brought up in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr. Wily is strictly a list, as cited by Digital Spy, with no commentary making it useless for reception. Additionally you can look up the book itself, and see the results were done by a poll, as I stated in the AfD, not by committee or any other guidelines. Many of Guinness' results for rankings and whatnot tend to be, and it fails for the same reason we wouldn't cite a commentary-less poll from IGN.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 15:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Indeed there is no commentary, which can be provided by other sources, but it still says that it is a highly regarded villain character. But is there any reason that a poll conducted by a reliable sources should not be used? Any policy on this? Because, doing a poll seems to me a very reasonably way to go for gauging popularity.
Aside from that, I think your restoration of the redirect violates the WP:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle and disregards the outcome of the deletion discussion. You are entitled to the way you see this, but a neutral party has summarized consensus as there being something to merge, the outcome was NOT purely redirect! I will do a merge to avoid edit warring some time in the future, even though I would much prefer to work at other articles. But that is not the way we are supposed to go about these things. Daranios (talk) 16:14, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Everything worth merging is in there I feel. If you feel a source or something should be there is nothing stopping you; per past discussions, there's no arbitrary guideline saying what should and should not be merged.I presented my reasoning for not including the reception, per UNDUE concerns and the fact it's rather poor quality.
As for the poll results, reader polls or anonymous polls are often easy to tamper, load or otherwise manipulate. It's the reason we don't include battle brackets for example or similar things in that vein and much like user reviews. Similarly we have no information on how the poll was conducted or what was included.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 16:52, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While this is a rule from the film section, MOS:FILMACCOLADES suggests to "Avoid accolades, especially listicles, that are mentioned only by the recipient and the awarding body." As for an audience popularity scale, we don't know how wide-ranging the poll is, how people were polled, or what standards are applied to it. What one takes away from this is highly up for interpretation, unlike, lets say, a poll that showed that Super Mario was more recognizable to school children than Mickey Mouse or that some publication put this forward. I'd can't find any real concrete importance of this list, even if its from a published source. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:21, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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